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		<title>By: E Pluribus Unum</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/achance/2009/09/20/defending-against-an-alinsky-campaign/#comment-2330</link>
		<dc:creator>E Pluribus Unum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 15:19:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When Beck is through chasing ACORN out of respectable company, either of these would be great target.  Both are criminals, and the extant, visible evidence on both of them is enough to guarantee they should be in prison.  Both are extremely high-ranking and powerful.

Rangel in particular is a good street fighter.  But both can and should become bywords for what happens when you #### with motivated conservatives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Beck is through chasing ACORN out of respectable company, either of these would be great target.  Both are criminals, and the extant, visible evidence on both of them is enough to guarantee they should be in prison.  Both are extremely high-ranking and powerful.</p>
<p>Rangel in particular is a good street fighter.  But both can and should become bywords for what happens when you #### with motivated conservatives.</p>
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		<title>By: E Pluribus Unum</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/achance/2009/09/20/defending-against-an-alinsky-campaign/#comment-2329</link>
		<dc:creator>E Pluribus Unum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 15:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, I never get tired of studying this stuff.

Texas has great potential here, being a RedState with all red at the top. For starters, conservatives here more than elsewhere are just simply not nice people. I think that is the first prerequisite.  And now we&#039;re pissed off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I never get tired of studying this stuff.</p>
<p>Texas has great potential here, being a RedState with all red at the top. For starters, conservatives here more than elsewhere are just simply not nice people. I think that is the first prerequisite.  And now we&#8217;re pissed off.</p>
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		<title>By: Achance</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/achance/2009/09/20/defending-against-an-alinsky-campaign/#comment-2328</link>
		<dc:creator>Achance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 22:49:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>is know when to slip that shiv, so to speak.  The very best thing for the Knowles people to have done was to fire me and a few of my buddies going into the &#039;02 election.  We&#039;d sabotaged several of their things and brazenly built a sleeper cell inside their administration.  The other side of that is that we were all skillful and well-connected enough that it would have been seen to be a brazen act of political retaliation against non-political merit system employees - which we technicaly were and we knew exactly how close to that line you could get and survive.

After I was a political appointee, I knew full well that there were several members of my staff that I could only trust when I could see them, as in see their eyes and both their hands.  Had to watch one of them&#039;s feet as well since she was female and would try to trip me, beat me to the ground, and make sure there was a reporter there.  I solved the problem with her by being her biggest supporter and getting her promoted.  That way she was out of my line and I had a chit on her.  The other one I just took the risk that he was better in the tent peeing out that out the tent peeing in.  Basically, in government, you&#039;d best choose your staff well because you&#039;re usually stuck with them.

And when it came to dealing with real, concrete people, GWB was just too personable and too nice a guy; he saw them all as people.  I always preferred abstractions and case files.  I hated most dismissal arbitrations where the first time you ever saw the grievant was when s/he was sitting there crying and shaking trying to save their job.  Don&#039;t get me wrong, I loved doing in people who thought they were players, but a lot of them were just dumbasses who were being used as cannon fodder by somebody.  No honor in doing them, but it has to be done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>is know when to slip that shiv, so to speak.  The very best thing for the Knowles people to have done was to fire me and a few of my buddies going into the &#8217;02 election.  We&#8217;d sabotaged several of their things and brazenly built a sleeper cell inside their administration.  The other side of that is that we were all skillful and well-connected enough that it would have been seen to be a brazen act of political retaliation against non-political merit system employees &#8211; which we technicaly were and we knew exactly how close to that line you could get and survive.</p>
<p>After I was a political appointee, I knew full well that there were several members of my staff that I could only trust when I could see them, as in see their eyes and both their hands.  Had to watch one of them&#8217;s feet as well since she was female and would try to trip me, beat me to the ground, and make sure there was a reporter there.  I solved the problem with her by being her biggest supporter and getting her promoted.  That way she was out of my line and I had a chit on her.  The other one I just took the risk that he was better in the tent peeing out that out the tent peeing in.  Basically, in government, you&#8217;d best choose your staff well because you&#8217;re usually stuck with them.</p>
<p>And when it came to dealing with real, concrete people, GWB was just too personable and too nice a guy; he saw them all as people.  I always preferred abstractions and case files.  I hated most dismissal arbitrations where the first time you ever saw the grievant was when s/he was sitting there crying and shaking trying to save their job.  Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I loved doing in people who thought they were players, but a lot of them were just dumbasses who were being used as cannon fodder by somebody.  No honor in doing them, but it has to be done.</p>
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		<title>By: Vladimir</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/achance/2009/09/20/defending-against-an-alinsky-campaign/#comment-2327</link>
		<dc:creator>Vladimir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 22:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>His instincts were collegial &amp; non-combative. They did not serve him well.

He was loyal to a fault with dipsticks like Scott McClellan who ended up being a tumor (and ultimately a traitor). GWB should have had someone slip a shiv between his ribs early on (figuratively, of course).

And he did not counterpunch well. He rope-a-doped until he had nothing left to punch back with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>His instincts were collegial &amp; non-combative. They did not serve him well.</p>
<p>He was loyal to a fault with dipsticks like Scott McClellan who ended up being a tumor (and ultimately a traitor). GWB should have had someone slip a shiv between his ribs early on (figuratively, of course).</p>
<p>And he did not counterpunch well. He rope-a-doped until he had nothing left to punch back with.</p>
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		<title>By: Oz</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/achance/2009/09/20/defending-against-an-alinsky-campaign/#comment-2326</link>
		<dc:creator>Oz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 22:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that given your standing on redstate, you can pretty much guarentee (and tell potential publishers) that you will get a front page article on a very popular conservative web site and I&#039;m sure that the electronic gang ( Rush, Sean, and Glen) would get behind this kind of book as well.

When you start looking for a publisher, you will obviously list your previous work, but any media appearences you&#039;ve made in the past would contribute as well.

Good luck and if you need a set of eyes on any form of the manuscript I&#039;d be willing to help (looking for an agent for my novel right now).

Oz</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that given your standing on redstate, you can pretty much guarentee (and tell potential publishers) that you will get a front page article on a very popular conservative web site and I&#8217;m sure that the electronic gang ( Rush, Sean, and Glen) would get behind this kind of book as well.</p>
<p>When you start looking for a publisher, you will obviously list your previous work, but any media appearences you&#8217;ve made in the past would contribute as well.</p>
<p>Good luck and if you need a set of eyes on any form of the manuscript I&#8217;d be willing to help (looking for an agent for my novel right now).</p>
<p>Oz</p>
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		<title>By: Achance</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/achance/2009/09/20/defending-against-an-alinsky-campaign/#comment-2325</link>
		<dc:creator>Achance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 22:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comrade Obama has an endless supply of appratchniks like Chu; that&#039;s like playing whack-a-mole, fun but doesn&#039;t accomplish much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comrade Obama has an endless supply of appratchniks like Chu; that&#8217;s like playing whack-a-mole, fun but doesn&#8217;t accomplish much.</p>
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		<title>By: Oz</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/achance/2009/09/20/defending-against-an-alinsky-campaign/#comment-2324</link>
		<dc:creator>Oz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 22:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://blogs.wsj.com/environmentalcapital/2009/09/21/steven-chu-americans-are-like-teenage-kids-when-it-comes-to-energy/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>http://blogs.wsj.com/environmentalcapital/2009/09/21/steven-chu-americans-are-like-teenage-kids-when-it-comes-to-energy/</p>
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		<title>By: Read Chesterton</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/achance/2009/09/20/defending-against-an-alinsky-campaign/#comment-2322</link>
		<dc:creator>Read Chesterton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 19:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;(by, in many cases so called Ron Paul supporters- his movement is totally infected with leftists.)&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;ve always thought that, at some point, the far loony left and the far loony right meet in a place where the continuum bends into a circle and they become indistinguishable.  To wit:  I respect much of what Pat Buchanan has to say, but I found it totally consistent that he chose a communist for a running mate in his presidential campaign/publicity stunt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>(by, in many cases so called Ron Paul supporters- his movement is totally infected with leftists.)</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;ve always thought that, at some point, the far loony left and the far loony right meet in a place where the continuum bends into a circle and they become indistinguishable.  To wit:  I respect much of what Pat Buchanan has to say, but I found it totally consistent that he chose a communist for a running mate in his presidential campaign/publicity stunt.</p>
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		<title>By: Read Chesterton</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/achance/2009/09/20/defending-against-an-alinsky-campaign/#comment-2321</link>
		<dc:creator>Read Chesterton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 19:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;(by, in many cases so called Ron Paul supporters- his movement is totally infected with leftists.)

I&#039;ve always thought that, at some point, the far loony left and the far loony right meet in a place where the continuum bends into a circle and they become indistinguishable.  To wit:  I respect much of what Pat Buchanan has to say, but I found it totally consistent that he chose a communist for a running mate in his presidential campaign/publicity stunt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>(by, in many cases so called Ron Paul supporters- his movement is totally infected with leftists.)</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve always thought that, at some point, the far loony left and the far loony right meet in a place where the continuum bends into a circle and they become indistinguishable.  To wit:  I respect much of what Pat Buchanan has to say, but I found it totally consistent that he chose a communist for a running mate in his presidential campaign/publicity stunt.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Read Chesterton</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/achance/2009/09/20/defending-against-an-alinsky-campaign/#comment-2320</link>
		<dc:creator>Read Chesterton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 19:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;They’d rescinded all the rules in the guise of re-engineering and “examining our processes.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That&#039;s not just true for union politics.  That one sentence sums up how corporate America in general eventually succumbed to the scourges of political correctness and multiculturalism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>They’d rescinded all the rules in the guise of re-engineering and “examining our processes.”</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s not just true for union politics.  That one sentence sums up how corporate America in general eventually succumbed to the scourges of political correctness and multiculturalism.</p>
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		<title>By: civil_truth</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/achance/2009/09/20/defending-against-an-alinsky-campaign/#comment-2319</link>
		<dc:creator>civil_truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 17:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...especially if you&#039;re of child-bearing age (unless you like seeing blow-up photographs of your belly in the local or national media) and heavy breathing analysis.

The above applies to any children or siblings of said officeholder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;especially if you&#8217;re of child-bearing age (unless you like seeing blow-up photographs of your belly in the local or national media) and heavy breathing analysis.</p>
<p>The above applies to any children or siblings of said officeholder.</p>
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		<title>By: Achance</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/achance/2009/09/20/defending-against-an-alinsky-campaign/#comment-2318</link>
		<dc:creator>Achance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 17:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you&#039;d best take vows of celibacy and poverty.  You&#039;d best never be seen alone, no matter the circumstance, with any woman you&#039;re not married to.  And if you make any decision that anyone who knows you might make a dime off, you&#039;re corrupt.

Democrats on the other hand are definitionally good people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you&#8217;d best take vows of celibacy and poverty.  You&#8217;d best never be seen alone, no matter the circumstance, with any woman you&#8217;re not married to.  And if you make any decision that anyone who knows you might make a dime off, you&#8217;re corrupt.</p>
<p>Democrats on the other hand are definitionally good people.</p>
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		<title>By: civil_truth</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/achance/2009/09/20/defending-against-an-alinsky-campaign/#comment-2317</link>
		<dc:creator>civil_truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 13:57:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s just making sure you don&#039;t lose your head.

Which traditionally I suppose meant not two-timing your current girlfriend, not telling company business while courting or in the bedroom, and not getting anyone pregnant - unlike a number of Congresscritters and other prominent politicians recenlty.

Though today, I wonder whether to prevent the false rape/attempted rape accusation one would need to be circumspect about with whom of the opposite sex you allow yourself to even be in a one-on-one situation without at least one other trustworthy adult present.

Indeed, in current pestilent partisan climate during the ongoing Communist revolution, along with the demise of comity and collegiality,  the ranks of honest politicians seem to be fast dwindling (as in, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.quotationspage.com/quote/1444.html&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;an honest politician is one who, when he is bought, will stay bought.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.

Are honest adversaries likewise vanishing? That would make sainthood more necessary, I suppose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s just making sure you don&#8217;t lose your head.</p>
<p>Which traditionally I suppose meant not two-timing your current girlfriend, not telling company business while courting or in the bedroom, and not getting anyone pregnant &#8211; unlike a number of Congresscritters and other prominent politicians recenlty.</p>
<p>Though today, I wonder whether to prevent the false rape/attempted rape accusation one would need to be circumspect about with whom of the opposite sex you allow yourself to even be in a one-on-one situation without at least one other trustworthy adult present.</p>
<p>Indeed, in current pestilent partisan climate during the ongoing Communist revolution, along with the demise of comity and collegiality,  the ranks of honest politicians seem to be fast dwindling (as in, <a href="http://www.quotationspage.com/quote/1444.html"><em>an honest politician is one who, when he is bought, will stay bought.</em></a>.</p>
<p>Are honest adversaries likewise vanishing? That would make sainthood more necessary, I suppose.</p>
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		<title>By: Moe Lane</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/achance/2009/09/20/defending-against-an-alinsky-campaign/#comment-2316</link>
		<dc:creator>Moe Lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 13:10:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s also kind of fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s also kind of fun.</p>
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		<title>By: Section9</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/achance/2009/09/20/defending-against-an-alinsky-campaign/#comment-2315</link>
		<dc:creator>Section9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 12:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s like inviting the Illinois Nazi Party over to dinner.

And with that, I do remind everyone of the passing of the Late, Great, Henry Gibson....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s like inviting the Illinois Nazi Party over to dinner.</p>
<p>And with that, I do remind everyone of the passing of the Late, Great, Henry Gibson&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Section9</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/achance/2009/09/20/defending-against-an-alinsky-campaign/#comment-2314</link>
		<dc:creator>Section9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 12:50:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>However, the Personalize, Freeze, and Isolate rule does help as an offensive technique. 

The use of ridicule, especially when used relentlessly, helps wear down the opposition. One of the things that that Left traffics in is their presumption of self-respect and superiority. They actually believe that they are the &quot;reality based&quot; community.

Such a &quot;community&quot;, with all its pretensions, is uniquely vulnerable to such attacks.

As to Trotsky? Well, had he been a bit shrewder and a bit more pragmatic, he might have avoided that run-in he had with an icepick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>However, the Personalize, Freeze, and Isolate rule does help as an offensive technique. </p>
<p>The use of ridicule, especially when used relentlessly, helps wear down the opposition. One of the things that that Left traffics in is their presumption of self-respect and superiority. They actually believe that they are the &#8220;reality based&#8221; community.</p>
<p>Such a &#8220;community&#8221;, with all its pretensions, is uniquely vulnerable to such attacks.</p>
<p>As to Trotsky? Well, had he been a bit shrewder and a bit more pragmatic, he might have avoided that run-in he had with an icepick.</p>
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		<title>By: JadedByPolitics</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/achance/2009/09/20/defending-against-an-alinsky-campaign/#comment-2313</link>
		<dc:creator>JadedByPolitics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 10:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I cannot tell you how nice your thank you was to see this morning.  I was getting along with mbecker yesterday as well.  I told my husband either the apocalypse is coming or WE are going to kick some butt in 2010.....I am going with the latter :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cannot tell you how nice your thank you was to see this morning.  I was getting along with mbecker yesterday as well.  I told my husband either the apocalypse is coming or WE are going to kick some butt in 2010&#8230;..I am going with the latter <img src='http://www.redstate.com/achance/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Achance</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/achance/2009/09/20/defending-against-an-alinsky-campaign/#comment-2312</link>
		<dc:creator>Achance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 09:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was amazing how strikingly handsome and attractive my aging, paunchy self became once I had an appointee title.  Oh, the sacrifices you sometimes had to make.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was amazing how strikingly handsome and attractive my aging, paunchy self became once I had an appointee title.  Oh, the sacrifices you sometimes had to make.</p>
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		<title>By: civil_truth</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/achance/2009/09/20/defending-against-an-alinsky-campaign/#comment-2311</link>
		<dc:creator>civil_truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 06:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What the Bible calls the world, the flesh, and the devil, or in modern parallel parlance: money, sex, and power. Nothing new under the son, just a change in language and new garb (except for sex, of course: no garb there).

Excellent diary here, Art, laying out a pathway for survival (perhaps the only one) that won&#039;t involve a high body count.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What the Bible calls the world, the flesh, and the devil, or in modern parallel parlance: money, sex, and power. Nothing new under the son, just a change in language and new garb (except for sex, of course: no garb there).</p>
<p>Excellent diary here, Art, laying out a pathway for survival (perhaps the only one) that won&#8217;t involve a high body count.</p>
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		<title>By: Achance</title>
		<link>http://www.redstate.com/achance/2009/09/20/defending-against-an-alinsky-campaign/#comment-2310</link>
		<dc:creator>Achance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 05:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I encouraged him to get out of the Army last September because I foresaw Comrade Obama becoming his CIC.  This is not a man that a loyal American should be willing to risk his life for.</description>
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