It’s Train Day


Promoted from the diaries by Neil…

Ok, it’s another “Hallmark Holiday,” in this case invented by Amtrak, but I invite your consideration.  The train is one of the fundaments of American culture.  The steam locomotive is the first thing that made man able to move on land faster than he could walk.  Until the steam locomotive, all of human life was constrained by the twelve mile rule; the distance a man could comfortably go and come in a day on horseback.  Go travel the back roads or even the old federal highways of the eastern US and check out the twelve mile towns.  To the extent they haven’t been torn down or re-muddled, they’re a temple of the pre-Interstate world.  But, enough of that, I want to talk about trains.

I love trains!  I like five 5000 horsepower diesel-electric locomotives dragging a hundred coal hoppers up a 2% grade; lots of smoke, noise, sparks off the wheels, and the occassional broken train.  I LOVE a steam locomotive on any grade.  The steam locomotive is a human machine, its drive rods work just like your arms.  When the steam explodes into the cylinder, it drives that rod against the crank on the wheel just like your biceps drive your forearm and fist.  It’s like us and you can see how it works.

My first train memory was some day in maybe ’52 or ’53, the last day of the Wadley Southern Railroad.  I watched the Wadley Southern’s last departure from Swainsboro, Georgia from my grandfather’s shouders.   The WSRR was the last of the roads that were built to serve the early 20th Century timber boom in my region of Georgia.  The little town of Stilmore, near my hometown, in the early 20th Century had five railroads serving it.  There’s a caution light in the middle of Stilmore these days and what’s left of the train station is a welcome center where nice old ladies hope somebody gets off the interstate a few miles away.  The Wadley Southern used to go from Stilmore through Swainsboro, my home town, to Wadley where it connected with the Central of Georgia Railroad.

The Central of Georgia was a BIg Deal!  For those of you who think the South is all about free market conservatism, the Central Railroad was built by the State of Georgia in the 1840s and ’50s.  Sherman followed its route in 1864.  The Central runs from Savannah to Atlanta, via  Macon and with a branch to Columbus.  It was the Heart of Dixie in its day.  When Roosevelt’s coffin came out of Warm Springs, it came on C of G rails to Atlanta.  In my youth, the C of G’s name train was the Nancy Hanks.  You can argue about whether it was named after the race horse or President Lincoln’s grandmother, but it had the race horse painted on the sides of its blue and gray cars.  One of the great social events of the year in the little farm towns between Savannah and Atlanta was the Christmas Specials.  In December, the C of G ran “specials” to Atlanta so that people could go do their Christmas shopping at Rich’s in Atlanta, spend the night in one of Atlanta’s fancy hotels and return to their real world the next day.  As I write this, I struggle to remember the names of the real, live locally owned hotels, each grand and beautiful and based on somebody’s idea of what a hotel should be like.  Places like the DeSoto and the Ponce de Leon and the Dinkler Plaza.  Remember when cities in America really were different?  People don’t even remember the history of the new hotels; I took my wife to the Regency in downtown ATL a few years ago just because it was the Regency.  Back in the day, that revolving lounge on top was a way cool thing.  Nowadays, pretty much all you can see is surrounding taller buildings.  But the story is that I had to tell the kid serving us in the bar is that THIS is where Jimmy Buffet got the inspiration for “Why Don’t We Get Drunk and Screw.”  Now that’s culture!

So, back to trains.  The most sandspurs I’ve ever had in my body was when I jumped off the Nancy in Dover, Georgia to get the conductor some water from the artesian sprng there.  I was maybe ten or twelve and had been down to see my city cousins in Savannah.  The conductor, seeing I was the only kid on the train, told me the train would be going real slow, so all I had to do was hop off and fill up his gallon jug with water.  That train must have been going 30 mph and I went a#$ over tea kettle through the weeds for fifty feet or more, but I got his water – and a few hundred sandspurs.

Anyway, when America went west, it went on the train.  The covered wagon showed the way and we like the romance of it, though if you’ve ever ridden in a wagon, all you can do is admire the stamina and the toughness of our forefathers’ behinds.  The West was settled by the train.  The railroads recruited settlers in the East and in Europe and plunked them down in the middle of nowhere and said, “have a nice life.”  And, well, many of them did; they made it.  They made territories and then states and they formed the modern nation; all because of the train.

And finally, lest you think I’m for Amtrak subsides or something; that day is gone.  I got to see the last days of “the train.”  The Southern Railway was among the last railroads to surrender its passenger service to Amtrak.  When I lived in Atlanta, I had to go to New York frequently.  That involved getting up at about four in the morning, driving to Hartsfield, flying PanAm or Eastern to NYC and getting to your hotel about noon.  I don’t know just what got me to look at it, but I discovered the Southern Crescent, Pullman service from Atlanta to New York.  You could catch the Crescent at Brookwood Station in suburban Atlanta at about five in the evening.  A Pullman bedroom was about the same price as First Class airfare.  You got dinner in the diner with real linen and real silver and real flowers on the table.  You got “Yessir,” “Nosir,” and “may I help you sir.”  You got up in the morning and had breakfast, organized your things and got to New York about noon.  You could take the tunnel from Penn Station to the Statler Hilton (If you remember PA – 6 – 5000, you’re dating yourself) and be out and about in New York just after lunch, just like taking the plane but you’d had a good night’s sleep and a pleasant trip.

If you get the chance, take an excursion behind a steam locomotive; there’s still quite a few of them running.  If you can, take one of the Amtrak trains on the long runs out west; the Empire Builder, the Sunset Limited, the Coast Daylight.  Those are hallowed names of classic trains and the Amtrak versions are hardly a shadow of them, but the trip is still wonderful.

Enjoy Train Day; it is a big part of what made us what we are.



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Happy train day!

Thrhheggeegwc Jjtkylkfofud (Diary) Saturday, May 9th at 8:21AM EST (link)

I love trains too, so I think I could go for this holiday.

 

I was raised on Southern railway union labor

Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Saturday, May 9th at 9:22AM EST (link)

Grandfather DeVine moved from Gadsden, AL to Spartanburg, SC in the late 20s when the SR shop burned down and they re-located their main repair station to Spartanburg. Many from Gadsden, Hendersonville, NC and Chatanooga moved to SC.

Granddad was a carman for 53 years and my Dad was carman and then VP (out of the union for 7 yrs) for 43 years until two years before Norfolk Western merged.

I rode the train from Spartanburg to Gadsden, Al often to visit relatives.

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Great diary!

azaeroprof (Diary) Saturday, May 9th at 2:22PM EST (link)

Last summer, I took 18 Boy Scouts & adults to the Philmont Scout Ranch in Cimarron, NM. To save the 13-hour drive, we caught Amtrak in Flagstaff at 5 AM and rode all day to Raton, NM. It sure beat driving, and we got to see the countryside like we never could have driving or flying. The seats had mucho leg and elbow room, you could roam about to the lounge car, and the food was excellent. If you have time, it’s a much better way to travel than to cram in shoulder-to-shoulder with 200 strangers in a little aluminum tube 40,000 feet above the scenery. And that’s coming from an aerospace engineer!

Also, if any of you get the chance, come to northern Arizona, Cottonwood to be specific, and take a ride on the Verde Valley Scenic Railroad. It’s a 3-4 hour ride through some of the most beautiful country you’ll ever see (outside of Alaska!). Get a first-class ticket, it’s not that pricey. You’ll maybe even see some bald eagles and their young if you come at the right time. Follow that up with a chuckwagon dinner at the Blazin’ M Ranch for a great family time.

There’s also the Grand Canyon Railroad that runs from Williams, AZ to the GC National Park. The scenery ain’t that great until you get there, though. And while you’re in Williams, be sure to get a burger and shake at Twister’s, a 50′s-style diner on Old Route 66.

Geez, better stop before I start sounding like an AZ tourism commercial.

Sorry...

azaeroprof (Diary) Saturday, May 9th at 2:28PM EST (link)

Ooh, double-Kowalski...

azaeroprof (Diary) Saturday, May 9th at 2:30PM EST (link)

I’ll try 2nd picture again:

If you really want to see bald eagles,

Achance (Diary) Saturday, May 9th at 3:15PM EST (link)

come to Juneau and check out the city dump, dozens of them there.

In Vino Veritas

Ooh, that sounds sexy! (nt)

azaeroprof (Diary) Saturday, May 9th at 4:14PM EST (link)

It's fondly known as Mt. Stinko.

Achance (Diary) Saturday, May 9th at 4:23PM EST (link)

Costs and enviromental regs caused them to shut down the incinerator. They contracted with Waste Management to run the thing and, of course, they want to do it as cheaply as possible, so they’re just stacking and covering general garbage. Last year it stunk insufferably for miles around the place and it is right in the middle of a commercial area, nice neighborhood, and even the State Pioneer’s Home. Plus, it is right on the route from the airport to town so a visitor’s first impression is that God awful stink. A certain amount of Hell raising got WM busy and now it is a spider web of piping and methane flares, so the stink is pretty much under control, but the eagles still love to hang out there.

In Vino Veritas

 
 
 
 
 
 

Happy train day to you guys.

Danielle Davis (ocleverone) (Diary) Saturday, May 9th at 2:52PM EST (link)

I have a couple of pictures from a park outside of LA that has all of these old neat trains.

Unfortunately, I cannot figure out how to upload pictures. It keeps telling me I don’t have permission.

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Errata:

Achance (Diary) Saturday, May 9th at 3:14PM EST (link)

That departure I watched from my grandfather’s shoulders was the last departure in steam, the WS soldiered on a few more years using an SW1500 diesel switcher for motive power. In the book Rails Through Dixie there’s a picture of the WS in steam in a mixed freight and passenger configuration. The passernger car is the rarely pictured “Jim Crow” combine. A combination coach and baggage/freight/mail car with seats for White passengers at one end, Black passengers at the other, and the freight/baggage/mail compartment in between.

In Vino Veritas

 

Achance

mom2oneson (Diary) Saturday, May 9th at 3:19PM EST (link)

Becareful, it’s mother’s day weekend! Any mention of “Hallmark” and something other than motherly devotion might get you in hot water! :)
Thanks for the diary. :) My son likes to read about trains I’m going to share it with him.

 

I love trains

red4ever (Diary) Saturday, May 9th at 3:24PM EST (link)

There is just something so solid about them. I took the train from DC to Baltimore to take the bar. MUCH less stressful than driving.

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Thanks for the glimpse to the past

reddog53 (Diary) Saturday, May 9th at 3:35PM EST (link)

You’re absolutely right about trains and their legacy.

I grew up in Western New Jersey along the Raritan River about 60 miles due west of New York City, and according to one of the old town’s residents, there were scenes of Tomas Edison’s “Great Train Robbery” filmed not far upstream from our town. The whole time we lived there the coal trains headed east to the power plants for New York and Newark punctuated our day’s schedule.

We should do more to make a market for passengers with them now, but Amtrak’s obviously not the way. The point about seeing the country while riding the train vs driving the interstate is right on target. You can still take the train from Charlotte to DC and get there in a decent amount of time–and the small towns along the way could be rediscovered gems.

 

I'll be riding Amtrak on business next week

Bill S (Diary) Saturday, May 9th at 3:39PM EST (link)

A round trip ticket from St. Louis to Chicago is around $50 right now…that’s about 1/2 as much as a planet ticket, much more comfortable, and when you combine with the hassle of air travel and the time it takes to/from the airport, going thru security, waiting for flights, etc. – the time difference is negligible.

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Thanks for the great diary

WarEagle01 (Diary) Saturday, May 9th at 3:47PM EST (link)

My grandfather was a hostler for the old Ma. and Pa. R.R. in York, Pennsylvania and trains have always fascinated me. Whenever we go back to PA I take the kids over to Lancaster County to ride on the Strasburg railroad. They have a beautiful old steamy there and also the PA railroad museum. There’s also a steam engine that operates out of Gettysburg that does dinner trips and is supposed to be very nice.

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I have a United brass model of a Ma and Pa 2-8-0.

Achance (Diary) Saturday, May 9th at 8:21PM EST (link)

Had if for years, just one of those things you collect because they’re cool. I never tried to model any of the Eastern roads but that big, bulky 2-8-0 with the overhung Elesco feedwater heater was just such an imposing locomotive that I think I spent the princely sum of $125 for it back in the ’70s. You don’t want to think about what a Japanese production brass model locomotive goes for these days, not that you could actually find a Japanese one new. The Japanese have the same out-sourcing problems we do.

Next time I get to G’burg, I’ll find the train; never done that.

In Vino Veritas

 
 

Southern Pacific for me

SteveLA (Diary) Saturday, May 9th at 3:53PM EST (link)

Art,

Thanks for the memories, my trains were Southern Pacific. I grew up with a track at the back of my house and can remember the train running through at night.

The sound and feel of a passenger train running fast at night out my back yard is something I will always remember.

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I went to the California Rail Museum in Sacramento,

Achance (Diary) Saturday, May 9th at 4:09PM EST (link)

a few years ago. They have an SP 2-8-8-2 cab forward there, about the biggest of the SP’s big steam power. I can look at that plumber’s nightmare for hours; what a complex machine!

The cab forwards were for the SP lines up and down the coast and through the mountains where there were long tunnels and snow sheds. The engine exhaust fumes and heat would practically suffocate the engine crews. The SP used oil fired locomotives, so somebody thought of just turning the locomotive around and running it with the cab forward so that the crew had all the exhaust and heat behind them. The built a whole series of very unique and uniquely attractive locomotives that ran cab forward.

In Vino Veritas

Vacation

SteveLA (Diary) Saturday, May 9th at 4:17PM EST (link)

Art,

Next winter, jump a plane and head for Australia, Winter in your part of the world will be full on Summer down under.

The Ghan from Adelaide to Darwin is great and crossing the Simpson desert is pretty interesting. Darwin is pretty neat too, but watch out for Crocks.

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Thanks for the Front Page, Neil! nt

Achance (Diary) Saturday, May 9th at 3:56PM EST (link)

In Vino Veritas

 

Trains made us a country

Loren Heal (Diary) Saturday, May 9th at 4:19PM EST (link)

Really, this comment is about trains and the telegraph, which made each other possible. Without the telegraph, there could not have been long-distance train travel, lest the railways hire someone to run along in front of the train to say the coast was clear. And without trains, there could have been no telegraph, for how could you fix the wires? It was a symbiotic relationship,

Trains and telegraphs made possible a boom in newspaper production. For the first time, newspapers could be syndicated, and could have reporters stationed in far-off locations with daily deadlines. Whereas in the 1840s news stories would sweep across the country in weeks, in the 1850s that turned into hours, with full reports within a day. And papers could be printed in one town and delivered by train all across a State or a region that day.

Trains made baseball the national sport, as teams from Boston and Chicago could be in the same league.

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Knott's Berry Farm

spedteacher Saturday, May 9th at 4:29PM EST (link)

was my very first train ride. It was a verrrry long time ago when the bandits and the sheriffs where allowed to use their guns.

My first train trip was from Germany to Hungary across the Iron Curtain. Now that was interesting, and I was only 12 years old. But this trip made me fall in love with trains, especially the ones with the “bedrooms”, as I called them. Very James Bond like.

when I was a teenager in '68...

larryp Saturday, May 9th at 6:11PM EST (link)

I was travelling on a student tour thru Europe. We had the over-night couchette cars- 6 bunks, 3 to a side. If lucky it was all from the tour. But sometimes itwas odd- man-out and we shared the room with strangers. The hot book that summer, one of them, was Rosemary’s Baby. There were a couple of copies on the tour and we took turns. I can remember reading with that weak wall light at midnight about Rosemary et al in the couchette car—drama! Train clacking away at 50 mph.
When we crossed the border somewhere, the door would slide open and and the conductor would say something like:”Americain? Oui?” yes, one of us would say…Bang went the door closed.

Our conductors were communist soldiers

spedteacher Saturday, May 9th at 8:37PM EST (link)

who would check the ceiling tiles and tap the floors and undercarriages for “escapees”. We were kids at the time we travelled, and we were American citizens to boot, so we never got harassed.

 
 
 

My dad rode the train

blooch Saturday, May 9th at 5:39PM EST (link)

by himself as a young boy from Baltimore to Seneca, SC back every Summer in the ’40s and would carry his suitcase a few blocks to his Granpda’s hous eon Depot Street. His mother would probably be arrested for neglect today.

My Maternal Grandfather purchased few passenger cars in the ’70s ,after he divorced Grandma ,and he moved them onto a siding off the Pickens Railway, (Family ran the line at the time) where he lived until his death in 2004. He made some good moonshine in the dining car for years.

“If I could save sounds in a bottle,
The first thing that I’d like to do,
Is to save the growl of a radial engine,
And the call of a steam whistle, too.”

Apologies to Jim Croce.

“Lieutenant Dike wasn’t a bad leader because he made bad decisions. He was a bad leader because he made no decisions.”

I'll second that! Love the sound of radial engines

Achance (Diary) Saturday, May 9th at 5:56PM EST (link)

almost as much as I love the sound of steam. We still have a few radial engined airplanes operating here. The Greenies ran off the Dehaviland Otters with radials and they now all have turboprops, but there are still quite a few Beavers operating here. Up North, there are still some DC-6s and even a few DC-3s and C-47s still slogging along after sixty years or more. Northern Air Cargo had a whole fleet of C-118s, the side-door cargo version of the DC-6 and I have some great pictures of them operating off the dirt strips in rural Alaska, but NAC has now gone all jet; there’s a video available from Amazon of the last radial engine flight, cool stuff.

Even the old jets are pretty much gone now. Alaska operated a fleet of B-737-200 Combis that hauled freight and passengers in rural Alaska. Most were equipped with rock deflectors on the nosewheels and a bypass air duct that put a blast of air in front of the engine intakes so they wouldn’t suck in dirt and gravel. Thing’s were noisier ‘n Hell and many is the bureaucrat who has done his hungover penance for spending his last night in Anchorage in the sin dens by having to listen to the Godawful racket in the back of an old Combi on the way to Bethel, Kotzebue, or Barrow.

In Vino Veritas

Radial engines and steam engines

blooch Saturday, May 9th at 10:29PM EST (link)

had two things in common: most of their guts were on the outside, and they required lots of oil. My dad worked on B-29′s in the ’50s, and he said those radials spewed and burned oil like you wouldn’t believe. He told me that the Junkers JU52, the corrugated German trimotor equivalent of our DC3, was so leaky that its range was severely limited by lube oil capacity, not fuel. Similarly, lubricating all of those exposed mechanisms on a steam engine must have been an engineering art in itself.

“Lieutenant Dike wasn’t a bad leader because he made bad decisions. He was a bad leader because he made no decisions.”

The maintenance was the foremost reason

Achance (Diary) Sunday, May 10th at 12:29AM EST (link)

the diesel supplanted the steam engine. I don’t have the numbers in my head, but the service cycle on a steam engine was in the dozens of hours and on the diesel in the thousands. Probably the most common picture of steam engines is of the fireman walking around the engine iwth his oil can and grease gun. The diesel didn’t need that. That’s all it took.

If you’ve ever seen a radial engine aircraft started, you’ll know what your dad was talking about; they simply belch oil. Engine start is a cloud of smoke.

In Vino Veritas

 
 

People who don't like freedom don't like the sound of radial engines

David123 (Diary) Sunday, May 10th at 2:38PM EST (link)

especially, lots of radial engines [on B17s, B-24s, & B-29s].

Hope this link works and that you like it, achance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPgy4mZrYd4&feature=channel

I like trains too.

David123

Good newsreel; loved the comments below.

Achance (Diary) Sunday, May 10th at 2:53PM EST (link)

Stupid lefties complaining about US/British bombing in WWII being a war crime. It would be worth it to bring back some old Nazis, say some SS Totenkopt guys, just so you could turn some dope smoking, FM radio listening Lefties over to them. Where’s time travel when we really need it?

In Vino Veritas

People like Pelosi almost make me wish Fresno and Sacramento

David123 (Diary) Sunday, May 10th at 3:53PM EST (link)

had been the major turning points in World War 2 instead of Midway and Guadalcanal.

Maybe people in San Francisco and Berkeley would appreciate America and American values if they had spent some time under Tojo.

David123

 

PeiperJ2's comment really frosted me.

blooch Sunday, May 10th at 3:53PM EST (link)

“…newborn babies don’t hold political views. They only know that they do not like to burn to death in their mothers arms, as happened in Dresden and Hiroshima and many other places.”

PeiperJ2, gaze upon this:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/7388762@N03/3295556197/

I wish I had the video I once saw of a concentration camp mother being forcibly separated from her toddler. The memory of it haunts me still. Primo Levi, for all his writing power, could never match it.

“Lieutenant Dike wasn’t a bad leader because he made bad decisions. He was a bad leader because he made no decisions.”

 
 
 
 
 

Thanks Art..

LibRick (Diary) Saturday, May 9th at 5:58PM EST (link)

You sparked an old memory. A group of us hopped a freight train to Pocatello Id. to see a Fleetwood Mac concert. Did it on a dare. Those were the days.

Happy Train day!

Read some old hobo literature or the lyrics to

Achance (Diary) Saturday, May 9th at 8:25PM EST (link)

Woody Guthrie songs about riding the rods. Late 19th and early 20th Century rail cars had truss rods that kept them from becoming sway backed under the loads. There were usually four or more parallel steel rods under the car where a brave or stupid enough man could rest himself and ride. Of course, falling off was pretty much certain death, but if you couldn’t actually get into a car, the rods were the way to go.

In Vino Veritas

 
 

Amen, Brothers. Bring Them Back. But...

farstar99 (Diary) Saturday, May 9th at 9:20PM EST (link)

Since it was the Mafia-run unions that got rid of them in the first place, and the Chicago Mafia’s puppet is in the White House, fat chance.

 

Thirty Hours: LA to Seattle

Ron Robinson (Diary) Sunday, May 10th at 2:25PM EST (link)

The Starlight Express was a nice experience for my family and me. It started off inauspiciously: my 8 yr old son made a rude remarkgesture to one of the porters. Once my son very clearly understood that the porters, conductors and cooks could have a very positive effect on our trip if they chose, and had him apologize, the trip went perfectly.

One of the greatest joys of train travel today is the other people you meet on the train. They are not like the fellow travellers on the airlines. They aree more thoughtful and more patient. And they seem to love our old heritage.

I agree with the commenter above that the Verde Canyon train is a wonderful experience – combine it with a chance to visit Jerome, AZ and you have a great 3 day weekend.

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I have personal experience with an old railroad engine bell

Finrod (Diary) Sunday, May 10th at 4:41PM EST (link)

To be precise, the Monon Bell, which is the traveling trophy which Wabash College (my alma mater) and DePauw University (our arch-rival) play for in football every November.

Let’s get down to brass tacks here. How much for the ape?

 

I love trains, subways and Amtrak too...

penguin2 (Diary) Sunday, May 10th at 9:45PM EST (link)

Now don’t think I’m crazy. Just think of all that they have in common-riding rails, jostling in a railroad car and seeing the sights, countryside or city. Trains bring a neat connection for the travelers.

I spent my childhood in NYC, riding subways, lived in Colorado and the trains out there show some of God’s beautiful country. The Durango Silverton Narrow Gauge still operates and that is God’s Country.

Today, I’m happy to take a train, even if it is Amtrak…yes, Happy Train Day.

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