***BREAKING*** Continuing Updates***Pray For Ft Hood: 12 Confirmed Dead, 31 Injured In Attack By 1 Shooter Confirmed Dead 2 Others Questioned Then Released


2 shooters reportedly opened fire at the Post Exchange. One Captured second escaped. firing started at Post movie theater late mybe from a third shooter while the second was escaping the Post exchance.

Stand by for updates!

Correction: First shootings began at processing center for injured and general check in.

Update: unclear if shooter at theater was same shooter who escaped the processing center.

Update: This is really driving me batty…they all talk like they every military person on base is armed every minute of the day. We need disparately need journalists who have served and have a clue to report on things like this!

Update: Unclear of second shooter opened fire from accross the processing complex or clear across the base?

Question: From commenter below: Do you call it terrorism if you have a planned and coordinated attack on a military installation by 2 or 3 individuals? If you don’t call it terrorism…what do you call it?

Udate: confirmed 3 shooters involved in the Ft Hood mass shootings. 1 arrested, 1 surrounded, 1 at-large.

Update: 2 suspects captured. 4 Swat officers wounded per DRUDGE

Update San Antonio FBI en route to Ft Hood

Update Army spokesman Lt. Col. Nathan Banks says the first shooting began at about 1:30 p.m. at a personnel and medical processing office. The facility, called a Soldier Rating and Processing center, handles administrative details for soldiers.

Update Numerous sources say graduation was scheduled at the Theater area where several of the shootings occurred.

Update Fox reports 30 Wounded

Update Fox now Reports 9 dead 27 wounded

Update I’m beginning to think reports of third gunman are incorrect.

Update Press jumping to conclusion it is because of battle stress and to many deployments without considering any other possible cause. This is obviously an isolated incident and has no connection to several cells broken up recently with plans to attack military facilities!

Update First shooter killed according to Army Spokesman. Shooter was a soldier. several other suspects have been apprehended…apparently reports of a second shooting scene is in error.

Update All casualties occurred at the soldier readiness center

Update CNN now confirming 11 killed in Fort Hood shootings. 1 gunman dead 2 in custody

12 dead 31 wounded

Update ABC identifies shooter as Major Malik Nadal Hasan.

Update Ouch…Rick Perry is reporting 3 shooters…I think he just screwed up Ft Hood Commander said 1 shooter confirmed dead

Update Congress observing moment of silence

Update Shepard Smith says Hasan shot Own men….Hasan is a Major…I’m not sure if shep meant to say the victims were specifically from Major Hasan’s own unit but I wouldn’t be surprised.

Correction: Eye Witnesses reported two additional shooters who are now in custody and listed as suspects.

Update Congressman Carter on Cavuto reporting another gunman is lose on the base and is being pursued

Update Hasan is reported to be a Psychiatrist….that kind of rules out battle fatigue doesn’t it?

Away from the computer for a while...below are updates:

Former colleague of Hasan said on Fox News Hasan once said “Muslims should stand up to the aggressors” in Iraq and Afghanistan

Cousin says he’s always been a Muslim



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News is reporting

notreallyrepublican (Diary) Thursday, November 5th at 4:03PM EST (link)

From pentagon sources that it appears to be ‘all military’, shooters and victims. At least it wasnt terrorism.


I’m a conservative, not a Republican. If the GOP forgets about that, I’d be more then happy to vote third-party. Wouldn’t give me any less representation then I have now, and might give me more.

Pray for all the soldiers safety!

notreallyrepublican (Diary) Thursday, November 5th at 4:03PM EST (link)

please!


I’m a conservative, not a Republican. If the GOP forgets about that, I’d be more then happy to vote third-party. Wouldn’t give me any less representation then I have now, and might give me more.

2 shooters in a planned attack...I don't know what you'd call it if it wasn't terrorism...

AceInTX (Diary) Thursday, November 5th at 4:16PM EST (link)

question is…who are the perpetrators and what was their motivation

The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in WashingtonFred Thompson
 
 

Wasn't terrorism? How can you be sure?

bk (Diary) Thursday, November 5th at 4:09PM EST (link)

Where'd nrr go?

Uma Richie (Diary) Thursday, November 5th at 6:21PM EST (link)

I guess unfolding information isn’t supporting the MSM preferred narrative that Bush’s war was bad and caused a bunch of fragile-minded, gun-toting simpleton soldiers to go on a shooting spree.

Hasan is reported to be a Psychiatrist...doesn't that rule out the MSM Meme that he's a stressed out soldier suffering from PTSD? nt

AceInTX (Diary) Thursday, November 5th at 6:29PM EST (link)
The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in WashingtonFred Thompson

Exactly

Uma Richie (Diary) Thursday, November 5th at 6:35PM EST (link)

and I’m wondering why nrr hasn’t come back to correct himself/herself. I could be wrong, but I perceived a military inferiority bias in his/her comment.

 

there had to be more than one gunman IMHO nt

AceInTX (Diary) Thursday, November 5th at 6:35PM EST (link)
The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in WashingtonFred Thompson
 
 
 
 
 

2 suspects in custody nt

bk (Diary) Thursday, November 5th at 4:11PM EST (link)

Now they're saying a shooting at a soldier's residence

bk (Diary) Thursday, November 5th at 4:30PM EST (link)

They didn’t say if it was on post or off, whether it was before or after these other shootings, or whether this would be the third shooter they were talking about earlier.

They just said it was on post but have no other details nt

bk (Diary) Thursday, November 5th at 4:31PM EST (link)
 

ABC says shooter was Major Malik Nadal Hasan

bk (Diary) Thursday, November 5th at 5:19PM EST (link)

No indication whether he was a Religion of Peace follower, but he must have been in the Army several years to reach rank of Major if their report is correct.

Shepard Smith is saying Hassan was complaining about the war....

JadedByPolitics (Diary) Thursday, November 5th at 5:36PM EST (link)

this is an ACT of terrorism! I don’t give a DAMN what the FBI or Obama or anyone says….when 12 soldiers DIE & 31 people are wounded by multiple people that is a conspiracy to commit terrorism….PERIOD!

OH he has converted to Islam and is from Virginia!...don't tell me not terrorism!..nt

JadedByPolitics (Diary) Thursday, November 5th at 5:37PM EST (link)

Surely you're not claiming this is anything but a coincidence

bk (Diary) Thursday, November 5th at 5:45PM EST (link)

CAIR will be after you before the night is out.

Let them come because I got a sailor's mouth full...

JadedByPolitics (Diary) Thursday, November 5th at 5:49PM EST (link)

of things to say to those b**star**……CAIR is the problem in this country making people fear saying what is OBVIOUS to those who want to open their eyes!

If there is NOT a reformation in Islam soon kindnesses will be VERY short lived! If I hear ONE person say something about the Catholics I will explode because they haven’t been KILLING in the name of God for many CENTURIES!

 

Merely a foreign contingency operation -

Achance (Diary) Thursday, November 5th at 5:50PM EST (link)

by al Queda.

In Vino Veritas

They need a new term - domestic contingency operation

bk (Diary) Thursday, November 5th at 5:55PM EST (link)

Domestic for us, foreign for them, but I'll betcha

Achance (Diary) Thursday, November 5th at 5:57PM EST (link)

Comrade Obama’s minions come up with some minion that avoids saying what we all know. I’m a member of a religion of peace too; Peace through superior firepower.

In Vino Veritas

 
 
 

It would be totally different if

Uma Richie (Diary) Thursday, November 5th at 5:57PM EST (link)

a terrorist sniper were scheduled to be executed five days from now.
Then I might believe that the shooters were terrorists trying to make a statement. For now I think it is either Bush’s fault for not addressing the problem of PTSD adequately or the NRAs fault. (sarcasm)

I hope this is not coordinated with cells on other bases.

 
 
 
 
 

I'm jumping the gun - terrorism

E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Thursday, November 5th at 6:05PM EST (link)

Yes it is.

And just ONCE I’d rather see Robert Gibbs’ pasty mug instead of Bambi’s. God, I can’t STAND it when he says anything about “our brave soldiers”.

Kill the Terrorists
Protect the Borders
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I'm with you on this EPU

Hooah_Mac (Diary) Thursday, November 5th at 6:08PM EST (link)

Calling this anything but terrorism would be wrong. The question is whether the shooters are acting on the direction of a broader terrorist group or if they are working as a detached cell.

-Priorities-
1. Mission 2. Soldiers 3. Everything Else

 

Just another isolated incident here folks...move along...nt

AceInTX (Diary) Thursday, November 5th at 6:08PM EST (link)
The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in WashingtonFred Thompson
 
 

Why can't we point out the obvious here...1 or more gunmen hill or wound 40 plus unarmed people...ITS TERRORISM!!

AceInTX (Diary) Thursday, November 5th at 6:15PM EST (link)

the only question at this point is…”Can we put the qualifier ‘Islamic’ terrorism on the broader categorization?”

The dead “Terrorist” is confirmed as a follower of the “Religion of Peace” so that’s one strike against the isolated incident. All that’s left to confirm Islamic terrorism is to confirm the shooter was influenced by his belief in the religion of peace and or connected to a known Islamist Terrorist organization to provide strikes two and three!!!

The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in WashingtonFred Thompson
 

Shocked

BigGator5 (Diary) Thursday, November 5th at 6:18PM EST (link)

I was sleeping up to just a few minutes ago and I am horrified to learn of this shooting.

I am in love with a soldier and (while she is in New Mexico’s WSMR) stuff like this make me angry and hurt.

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Supposedly gunnman shot 50 rounds and there are something like 44 dead and wounded...

AceInTX (Diary) Thursday, November 5th at 6:32PM EST (link)

I don’t see how on guy does that…I wouldn’t expect his accuracy to be that high in a high stressed situation like this.

Were he a combat soldier I could maybe swallow the possibility of that kind of accuracy of a lone gunman…but Husan is a psychiatrist?

There is more to this…I’m sure of it nt

The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in WashingtonFred Thompson

If he was in a crowded room then it seems possible. nt

bk (Diary) Thursday, November 5th at 6:35PM EST (link)

I don't think so..that's one shot per person practically...

AceInTX (Diary) Thursday, November 5th at 6:42PM EST (link)

if the 50 rounds from Hassan is true…He wasn’t alone…I’m sure of it…because a person in this type of situation would have to be highly trained to achieve that level of accuracy…and keep in mind…the victims are all battle tested…I doubt they presnted him with a stationary target…

I’m getting far afield here because I doubt the 50 shots reported is true…and this discussion is questionable while people are mourning…so I’m going to drop this line of discussion with that said…

and I’m sorry I brought it up and apologize to anyone I offended

The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in WashingtonFred Thompson

It appears he did indeed do it himself...

AceInTX (Diary) Friday, November 6th at 8:59AM EST (link)

all I can say is…for one man two walk through a room full of people and shoot that many people with such a level of accuracy tells me this guy had ice water for blood because anyone can tell you shooting a gun with accuracy in such a high stress situation with your heart racing and your adrenaline causing you to shake isn’t normal without a high level of training

That or he’s an unfeeling automaton not affacted by things going on around him

The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in WashingtonFred Thompson
 
 
 
 

Prayers, not accusations, right now

fmaidment (Diary) Thursday, November 5th at 6:33PM EST (link)

My brother served 2 1/2 years at Fort Hood. While he’s in the Guard now, this hits just a little too close to home for me.

Prayers now. Information will come. We will know his motives soon enough.

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I agree whole heartedly on the prayers...

AceInTX (Diary) Thursday, November 5th at 6:37PM EST (link)

speculation is questionable but not uncalled for in this kind of situation…

The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in WashingtonFred Thompson

Agreed.

fmaidment (Diary) Thursday, November 5th at 6:40PM EST (link)

However, we can speculate all we like, but it’s not “news” until the details confirm it.

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Agreed...BTW...I'm in San Antonio and have worked a lot in Kileen...so I know what you mean about close to home nt

AceInTX (Diary) Thursday, November 5th at 6:44PM EST (link)
The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in WashingtonFred Thompson
 
 

especially

Uma Richie (Diary) Thursday, November 5th at 6:45PM EST (link)

if you are responsible for a military unit or division thereof, or if you live in base housing and have children, or if you have a shipmate who converted to Islam and has a bad attitude. Al Qaeda causes confusion by coordinating attacks. Sympathetic individuals may perpetrate copycat incidents in short order. The large population of military members and dependents and supporters on RS almost demands that we share info and assess the situation.

 
 

I deployed out of Ft. Hood

Hooah_Mac (Diary) Thursday, November 5th at 6:47PM EST (link)

I have several good friends there. I was able to talk to one of them and he and his family are okay.

I know exactly what you mean about close to home.

-Priorities-
1. Mission 2. Soldiers 3. Everything Else

 
 

The ceremony they keep talking about was a PLDC

bk (Diary) Thursday, November 5th at 6:33PM EST (link)

according to what a local reporter said a soldier told him. This is now called WLC and I think it’s for people getting promoted to NCOs.

Yeah, PLDC stands for

Vegas_Rick (Diary) Thursday, November 5th at 6:40PM EST (link)

Primary Leadership Development Course and is the first step in leadership training for prospective and junior NCO’s.

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I think the determination has been made that the shootings didn't occur at the ceremony...

AceInTX (Diary) Thursday, November 5th at 6:45PM EST (link)

at least not the primary shooting…but it was done at the processing center..

or maybe I missed something?

The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in WashingtonFred Thompson

I thought they said the ceremony was tonight

bk (Diary) Thursday, November 5th at 7:25PM EST (link)

It was just processing going on during the day apparently.

Two different things but perhaps at the same conference hall or whatever. And that’s if I got the stories straight and the info was straight to begin with.

If true this was not a deployment ceremony (not that it makes a whole lot of difference in the big picture really).

The map shows the processing center right across the parking lot from the theater where the ceremony was

AceInTX (Diary) Thursday, November 5th at 8:20PM EST (link)

I had to leave for a while and the reports were all ove rthe place when I left so I’m unclear where things were but the Base Commander said the casualties were confined to the processing center earlier this afternoon

The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in WashingtonFred Thompson
 
 
 
 
 

On FOX Now

Hooah_Mac (Diary) Thursday, November 5th at 7:11PM EST (link)

Colonel (or LTC) who worked with the Major, witnessed him make comments previously about how the Muslims should stand up to the aggressors.(Meaning against us overseas)

-Priorities-
1. Mission 2. Soldiers 3. Everything Else

The COL also made comments about Obama

Hooah_Mac (Diary) Thursday, November 5th at 7:13PM EST (link)

Wanted Obama to pull out of OIF and OEF, got more agitated as time went on and no pullout.

Apparently there had been an investigation about the statements this Major had made.

-Priorities-
1. Mission 2. Soldiers 3. Everything Else

Clarify - the COL made comments about what the Major had said about Obama -nt

Hooah_Mac (Diary) Thursday, November 5th at 7:14PM EST (link)

-Priorities-
1. Mission 2. Soldiers 3. Everything Else

 

Why would the military NOT make him see a shrink?...

JadedByPolitics (Diary) Thursday, November 5th at 7:16PM EST (link)

what is their position on people making inflammatory statements? I would think those things he said would be reason for caution or at the very least a reason to take his weapon away!

This COL said there was an investigation

Hooah_Mac (Diary) Thursday, November 5th at 7:17PM EST (link)

Unfortunately the COL retired and does not know what came of that.

-Priorities-
1. Mission 2. Soldiers 3. Everything Else

My guess is...somone pointed a finger at someone and uttered the dreaded word, "PROFILING"

AceInTX (Diary) Thursday, November 5th at 7:37PM EST (link)

AND THE INVESTIGATION ENDED!

The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in WashingtonFred Thompson
 
 

He IS a shrink Jaded nt

AceInTX (Diary) Thursday, November 5th at 7:36PM EST (link)
The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in WashingtonFred Thompson

Remember reading years ago that the highest rate of suicide

Scope (Diary) Thursday, November 5th at 8:15PM EST (link)

was amongst Phychiatirsts.

I don't doubt it because people are bound to psychiatry because they are idealistic and empathetic...

AceInTX (Diary) Thursday, November 5th at 8:22PM EST (link)

then when they are faced with the dregs of society and the depravity of the human mind…they crash!

The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in WashingtonFred Thompson
 
 

Remember reading years ago that the highest rate of suicide

Scope (Diary) Thursday, November 5th at 8:15PM EST (link)

was amongst Phychiatirsts.

 
 
 
 
 

Some said about a "jihadist".

Rod_Patrick (Diary) Thursday, November 5th at 7:21PM EST (link)

Of course, we won’t know until all facts come in.

 

Not a convert

fmaidment (Diary) Thursday, November 5th at 7:26PM EST (link)

Fox News is interviewing his cousin, Nader Hasan, who reports that Malik was not a convert, but a life-long Muslim. Nader reports that the entire family is shocked and upset.

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So I guess maybe the FBI or someone made that cousin shut up...huh?...

JadedByPolitics (Diary) Thursday, November 5th at 7:28PM EST (link)

I'd like to know what makes this guy's cousin think Hasan is a good American

AceInTX (Diary) Thursday, November 5th at 8:24PM EST (link)

by what standard?

The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in WashingtonFred Thompson
 
 
 

Why was Hasan transferred from Walter Reed?

Husker (Diary) Thursday, November 5th at 8:59PM EST (link)

Here’s the link to his medical license. http://www.vahealthprovider.com/results_generalinfo.asp?License_No=0101238630

Also, he interned, did his residency, and received his fellowship at Walter Reed.

He was transferred from WR after receiving a poor performance review.

I'm betting we never get a straight answer to that. nt

Achance (Diary) Thursday, November 5th at 9:05PM EST (link)

In Vino Veritas

 
 

I'm just upset this guy lived...

AceInTX (Diary) Friday, November 6th at 9:04AM EST (link)

now he gets free legal representation, the best health care our government can provide, three hots and a cot, and round the clock attention for the 15 years it takes us to get around to executing him after all the appeals and legal maneuvers.

The “Big Tent” analogy isn’t the correct one…the correct one is a MAGNET…we need to be a MAGNET that draws these independents in who are sick and tired of what’s going on in WashingtonFred Thompson