You know it has happened to you at least once. You hear about some complex political issue, some bill waiting to be passed, some local ballot initiative, and you can make neither heads nor tails of it. You need, or want, to hear what someone else thinks of it, in order to know what you think of it. It’s happened to all of us.
We live in the information age. We can, with a few pecks at the keys or flips of the channel, find out exactly what any given person thinks about any given subject pretty much universally. Clicket-click, Obama on taxes. Tappy-tap, Affleck on Darfur. Flip flip flip, Matthews on leg tingles. Just like that, we can know what we think about something, and switch back to “Fringe” or restart Guitar Hero.
People, and by people I mean voters, are not dumb. But they are quite often unable or unwilling to properly process information. In many ways, the modern American voter lacks the very tools necessary process what is an extraordinary amount of information available to them. I can’t tell you how many people I talk to about politics who do have detailed information and still can’t decide what to think about it until they hear what someone else thinks about it, be it Rush Limbaugh or Jon Stewart.
Media has more impact than education. People recall GI Joe episodes better than whatever book they read in the third grade. So people, therefore, think in terms of a media culture, and not in terms of an educated population of individuals. Again, this is not to say the average person is dumb, but just that the average person doesn’t think anymore. They don’t need to think anymore. Horatio will figure out who killed who, Colbert will figure out what is and is not to be mocked, and celebrity activists will determine what’s the most satisfying way to feel about something.
Therefore, Obama.
With a lack of critical thinking, Barack Obama’s life story was obviously compelling. This media culture of ours derives credibility from situational aptness. Obama is black, so he’s more credible on black issues. He’s multi-racial, so he’s more credible on race, and so on. (Curiously, this rarely works if claiming to be more credible on military issues for having been in the military … at least in the media. And the media, as I said, is where such things are decided for us.)
What voters largely do want is someone who articulates; and this is ultimately Obama’s greatest electoral strength and the GOP’s greatest weakness. Articulation is what makes Jon Stewart, a comedian, a leading voice for the left. It’s because he says aloud what is in their heads. That’s Barack Obama. Obama can articulate both sides of an issue in the terms of familiarity for each side. People are moved by articulation because they require someone else to articulate their thoughts, since as I said, they depend on others to think. Why, in other words, would Bob deal with race issues, when he can just listen to Obama and feel satisfied they are being handled? Because Obama articulated Bob’s feelings, Bob can comfortably abdicate his burden of thought and go back to World of Warcraft.
The GOP doesn’t articulate well. Even when we have a policy position that enjoys wide support, or share a philosophical belief with huge numbers of voters, we can still lose those voters, and this is the kicker, on those very issues. The fact that the kind of two-faced articulation Obama specializes in succeeds is not something to be celebrated, but neither is it be ignored. Not if we want to have success in the near future. In other words, we could argue about the relative value of this type of thinking in society, but that’s a different blog. This method of thought exists, and widely. It’s fine to want to be the voice of reason, but first we have to make sure we’re a voice at all.
As we all engage in the post-mortem process, as we think about where the GOP is going, we have to remember something we never seem to remember. The Republican party has to speak for someone. When Bob comes home at night, and turns on Fox news channel, as most cable news viewers choose to do, he is going to be swayed by something that we, as a party, sneer at. The Clinton lip-bite, the Obama infomercial, the Hillary tears and, yes, the McCain POW story. Bob’s mind is wired by the television, not the newspapers and not (yet) the internet. When Bob flips through the television stations and hears Democrats saying the things he and his friends say at work or on campus, and the Republican saying something that either bores him or puts him off, the substance of the issue at hand is lost.
In truth, half the Bobs out there were practically raised by the television. It is why, among certain viewers, shows like Family Guy and Robot Chicken gain such tremendous cult followings doing little more than making television-related pop culture references in lieu of traditional jokes. This television-mind-wiring can be undone, obviously. Blogs, for example, can help clear it up. But for so many Americans, it is the need to have someone think and speak on their behalf that drives them.
Going forward, this Grand Old Party needs to take a hard look at how we do business. Conservatives in America even more so, meaning all of us who care about conservative policy in practice and want it enacted. We should focus on ways to articulate even before what to articulate. Because when you don’t, you lose that very important block of American voters who think, largely, in the same fashion as the celebrity culture and, more importantly, often by proxy, be that proxy celebrities, radio hosts, or an everything-to-everyone zeitgeist candidate for President. I don’t think it will always be so. In fact it is, to borrow from the zeitgeist, ready to change. But we won’t have our hand in how it changes if we remain out of power indefinitely.
So for now, it’s not just about message anymore. It’s not even just about packaging anymore. It’s about a voter flipping to Fox and hearing a Republican talking head saying something that makes him say “darn right and pass the Wii-mote!”
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Twitter
Bill S (Diary) Wednesday, November 19th at 11:13PM EST (link)We need to think and communicate in 140-character bursts. Maybe we can win back the yoot vote that way…
“It’s such a fine line between stupid, and clever.” – David St. Hubbins
I don't know if it's so much that we fail to articulate our positions properly
itsonlywords (Diary) Wednesday, November 19th at 11:18PM EST (link)Or that the message never reaches the people. On the rare occasions that the media reports what is said, they often misreport it. But more often than not, they don’t even report what was said, they just report an “analysis” of what was said, with their spin on it. And in this way, we’re defined by the very people who despise us.
So when you say “We should focus on ways to articulate even before what to articulate,” I hope you mean both exactly how to say what we want to say AND the means to make sure that message reaches the voters intact.
Tu ne cede malis sed contra audientor ito. ~Virgil
Do not give in to evil, but proceed evermore boldly against it.
absolutely
Caleb Howe (Diary) Wednesday, November 19th at 11:26PM EST (link)The talking heads and pundits, the columnists and perennial talk show guests, these are going to be a primary method. Youtube, too, should be a fundamental tool.
Caleb Howe (formerly known as absentee)
Absolutely the truth! 555
Michael Dugas (Diary) Wednesday, November 19th at 11:45PM EST (link)Absolutely the truth. Our country elected a first term Junior Senator from Illinois who spent 60+% of that first term running for president. There were several reasons, our nominee, the economy etc. But the main reason, as far as I am concerned, is that the Democrat Party, hand in hand with the media, controlled every aspect of the information released for broad casting to the people. They controlled the stories and their directions
insulating the nominee they ‘selected” while pouring a non stop flow of negative information about McCain. And now, post election, they are working hand in hand again to try and inform us
about why the Republicans lost and supposedly how to fix it. All of this to damage, if not destroy, the conservative party and make sure it never gets on its feet again.
They are going full bore to steal a couple of more seats so as to establish a filibuster proof congress and also working to silence conservative voices over the airwaves etc. All of this is extremely scary and we better come to grips with it very fast and battle it
to the end or we could be rendered politically impudent for years to come.
Intro to Federalist Papers; section 5;
paragraph 4.
“…dangerous ambition more often lurks behind the specious mask of zeal for the rights of the people than under the zeal for a firm and efficient government.”
Remember: A Citizen on the dole is a Liberal Vote at the Polls.
END ENTITLEMENTS!
Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum !
Parse It If You Will
LoneApple (Diary) Wednesday, November 19th at 11:56PM EST (link)But the fact remains that we were saddled with a losing candidate front and center. McCain was horrible and was not only unable to articulate Republican ideas but pretty much unable to speak coherently. At least Sarah had passion for what she was saying, McCain just came across as a tired and pathetic old man. We cannot win over the voters with doddering grandpa candidates.
2008 was a perfect storm of an election year. The Democrats needed to do nothing but repeat “economy, economy, economy” and it was enough to get Obama elected. Why? Because voters out there were getting up in the morning and going to work every day wondering if it was going to be their last.
I blame Bush for this loss as well. Not because he’s unpopular in the polls but because he unleashed a bunch of selfish bastard Wall Street types to oversee our money who did nothing but create a panic in the American population. They single-handedly fostered a panic where no panic was warranted.
As for conservative ideals: Let’s get some candidates that can convey them with some conviction and not just mouth them because that’s what’s on the script.
The new Republican Party: The Future Starts Now.
Fantastic point, Absentee
Hermes (Diary) Thursday, November 20th at 12:13AM EST (link)I completely agree with your point here. If conservatives ever hope to regain power in Washington in the current media environment then they are going to have to have one or both of the following:
A solid education in conservative political philosophy and the ability to effectively communicate said philosophy.
Teflon coating. I find that Fred Thompson and Mike Huckabee possess this particular trait in abundance, but it is not something that most Republicans are overly blessed with.
Great Food for Thought Caleb
Whitehorse (Diary) Thursday, November 20th at 12:18AM EST (link)Good post & good replies. I think that LoneApple makes a good point regarding conviction. Saying something with conviction is convincing. When we have candidates who can articulate the message with conviction, we win. When Democrats do, they win. One reason I believe Kerry lost is his lack of conviction, of conveying the emotion that he believed what he said. Obama may be full of YKW, but he said it with conviction.
I believe if we get candidates who can articulate the full conservative message – limited government, fiscal responsibility, strong national security, & conservative social values, these candidates will win far more than they lose. They will need to not only believe it, but put it into practice.
We also have to harness the power of the new media to move people to act. For all the bias of the MSM, I think the activism from the new media is a big part of the reason Obama won. We need to get this going sooner rather than later.
Ingrained
1stRichard (Diary) Thursday, November 20th at 12:21AM EST (link)From here I see it more as a truism and an unshakable stereotype, when this is attacked they change the channel, shut it out and seek support groups. Others are too caught up in the normalcy of their life and anything outside their norm is rejected. Indoctrination starts as early as six such as school field trips are now peace protests down town, yes there were some “Down with Bush” signs. Therein your proposal may work in other places but not where in am stuck.
Such is life in Taxachusetts
Any suggestions for my situations is welcome
Jeff Dunham joke here somewhere...
JLenardDetroit (Diary) Thursday, November 20th at 12:28AM EST (link)Democrats…. on a stick (or is that a stick up …. never mind… certainly not a brain in their head)
Yes, lazy electorate… Democrats make their living on the ability to allow citizens to “think” something is being done so they don’t have to be bothered as opposed to actually “doing something.”
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I want “O” to FAIL (here, here, & whole Diary (Ofail) here, is why)
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Run for the school board.
itsonlywords (Diary) Thursday, November 20th at 12:29AM EST (link)And get any other conservatives you know to do the same. I almost feel like anything else we do is just a stopgap measure until we control the schools again.
Tu ne cede malis sed contra audientor ito. ~Virgil
Do not give in to evil, but proceed evermore boldly against it.
Right
antisocial (Diary) Thursday, November 20th at 12:38AM EST (link)I agree on all your points. Here is what I don’t understand. I always believed education helps build up critical thinking abilities. At least my dad used to say that. With more and more graduates out every year and the education levels rising with each generation why is it that the ability to analyze has taken a back seat? Is it because the education system is broken? When I see nuts as professors I am stumped.
Another thing that frustrates me… Look at the so called “conservative” folks on major media channels except FOX. How and why these folks are labeled “conservatives” is beyond me. Should there be an effort to discredit these folks and provide good conservative alternatives?
You are absolutely right on the communication. However good the message might be, its significance is lost if it doesn’t reach the intended audience in an “easy to understand” manner.
Conservative role models, back to basics, communication, ground organization and continuous engagement will be the key to success.
Obama Doctrine – Boot On The Throat
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The Emperor has no clothes!!!
The Elephant (not the Republican one) in
bobbymike (Diary) Thursday, November 20th at 1:28AM EST (link)the room is that demographic changes combined with completely biased MSM reporting and the GROSS IGNORANCE of many voters makes the hill to climb almost insurmountable for Republicans.
By next election there may be 16 million new first time voters EXTREMELY grateful to the Democrats that put them on the fast road to citizenship.
Mark Levin made some brilliant observations about this but the main theme is that the Constitution has become a meaningless (I’m really paraphrasing) document to a very large number of voters.
The evidence is quite obvious, the farthest left, least qualified person to run for the President arguably in American history won!! Yes there were other reasons for his victory but what struck me throughout the election is the ALMOST COMPLETE IGNORANCE OF THE OBAMA VOTER.
Understanding American culture needed to win American elections
gensec (Diary) Thursday, November 20th at 3:31AM EST (link)You covered a lot of ground with this, and some of it doesn’t have easy answers.
A fundamental issue, to borrow a line from Rumsfeld, is that you go into an election with the American society you have, not the American society you wish you had.
If you win an election, that may have some small influence on how American culture evolves, but being out of touch with American culture as it is now is is a guarantee you never get that chance.
Especially troubling is the Republicans’ miserable failure with voters under 40. Reversing the downward trend with younger voters (compared to other voters) for the last few elections is absolutely essential if the Republican party doesn’t want long term minority status.
I’ve seen some smug dismissal of younger voters’ general contempt for Republicans, with the tired line about no heart vs. no brain, but that doesn’t work in real life. Reagan did better with younger voters than with their elders, and started a trend of growing Republican power. Now all that’s been frittered away in the last decade or so, and still heading down hill.
After suffering a comprehensive butt kicking, it may be comforting to say the voters we couldn’t reach are just too ignorant, but that’s not a recipe for turning the situation around.
Under 40 voters were different then
Spiral (Diary) Thursday, November 20th at 6:06AM EST (link)When Reagan was running, the under 40 voters saw the Democrats as mismanaging the economy and foreign policy. So, of course the young were attracted to Reagan, since Reagan was offering a change from the status quo of high inflation, gasoline lines and weakness in the face of Iraq and the Soviet Union.
But in the election held a few weeks ago, the Republicans represented a bad economy (even if Democrats programs like Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were truly responsible). So, again, the young decided that they wanted change.
Don’t be surprised if 4 years from now the Republicans do well with the under 40 vote, especially if Obama and the Democrats mismanage the economy (and how likely is it that they will manage the economy well?).
The Obama Bread Lines
GOP losing trend with young is deeper than that
gensec (Diary) Thursday, November 20th at 10:12AM EST (link)If you only looked at those two elections, you might guess that young voters were merely swinging more heavily to the winning side than other voters. That’s what I wanted to believe when Republicans lost their customary (back then) advantage among young voters in 1992 against Clinton.
However the Republicans’ downward trend among younger voters has kept getting worse since then, even in years when the GOP managed to scrape together enough aging white guys to make up the difference. A compilation of CNN Presidential exit poll numbers shows Republicans losing young voters by increasing margins:
Note that even when the GOP overall share of the total vote significantly increased in 2004, its share of young vote didn’t increase – all of Bush’s 2004 gains were from older voters. The disparity between how we do with older voters versus young voters keeps growing.
The GOP losing trend that I’ve been noticing the last few elections was among voters under 30. This year we also see it in the 30-40 age group: those 20 something voters a couple of elections ago kept voting Democratic as they got older.
Don’t be surprised if 4 years from now the Republicans do well with the under 40 vote, especially if Obama and the Democrats mismanage the economy
Factors that influence swing voters in general to turn away from the Democrats also change the minds of some young voters. So yes, we might see the the 2012 Republican candidate do better than McCain among all age groups, including the young. But barring a GOP landslide, “doing well” with young voters probably just means losing them by a smaller margin.
yep
E Pluribus Unum (Diary) Thursday, November 20th at 11:41AM EST (link)Understanding conservatism requires a person to think just a little bit past the sound-byte, and we are in DEEP crap when our spokespeople are neither articulate nor driven by core conservative principles – and yes, I’m talking about Bush and McCain.
Palin was and is electrifying because she embodied and clearly articulated conservatism that caused watchers and listeners to say “yeah……..me too!”
Kill the Terrorists
Protect the Borders
Punch the Hippies h/t IMAO
Young voters aren't a large part of electorate
Spiral (Diary) Thursday, November 20th at 4:52PM EST (link)I’m not really interested in all of these subgroups.
Who cares if a GOP candidate wins 45 percent of the “young voters” if he or she wins the election?
You might say, “But these voters will be around for a while.”
Okay. But we can cross that bridge when we come to it.
Pandering to voter subgroups is usually a bad idea because other voters pick up on this.
That’s why the obsession with the “Hispanic Vote” is counter productive. We end up satisfying no one. McCain was pro-amnesty, but he lost the Hispanic vote and he didn’t energize other voters who tend to support the GOP on law and order issues.
The Obama Bread Lines
We're already on that bridge
gensec (Diary) Thursday, November 20th at 6:14PM EST (link)You might say, “But these voters will be around for a while.”
Okay. But we can cross that bridge when we come to it.
That was the problem I cited as already happening. The Republican underperformance with 18-29 year old voters of the last few elections, now in the 2008 election also extends into the 30-39 group.
What’s happening isn’t the heart vs. head caricature of snotty kids voting Democratic, and then turning Republican when they grow up. It’s a generational shift rather than an age thing. The young people entering the electorate the last few elections went increasingly Democratic, and they are staying Democratic.
There are ups and downs from one election to another, but there’s also a downward trend that will make it impossible to win in even a “good year” for us unless the trend is reversed. Every round of obituaries and 18th birthdays is tilting the electorate more Democratic, making it harder and harder to assemble an electoral majority so increasingly dependent on aging white guys.
Trends can be reversed. In the 80′s we used to think of the Democrats as the old folks party, students had a bemused contempt for their professors’ leftism, and the birthdays vs. obituaries demographics led to increasing Republican strength.
I agree pandering with policies directed specifically to demographic groups like age, race, religion etc is generally a futile tactic. How to reverse the GOP’s demographic trend toward long term minority status is a difficult question, with plausible arguments for opposing strategies. However the losing trend itself is is obvious, and pretending it isn’t happening because its too unpleasant to think about, is a prescription for increasing Democratic majorities for the next couple of decades or longer.
The young will learn that Democrats can't govern
Spiral (Diary) Thursday, November 20th at 6:27PM EST (link)For the last 14 years Americans have been protected by either a Republican US House of Representatives or a Republican president from higher taxes.
Basically, the Democrats have not had to govern all by themselves for the past 14 years. They could always whine about Newt Gingrich or George W Bush and defer responsibilty.
Now excuse time is over.
So, sure, in the last several elections they have done well with the young voters.
But they won’t do as well with young voters or even Hispanic voters when they have all of the responsbility for governing the country.
Remember. The last two time the Democrats had complete control over Washington DC:
Carter years – 1977 thru 1980
Clinton years – 1993 thru 1994
We know how those periods ended. One with the Reagan revolution. One with the Gingrich revolution.
So, we shouldn’t be worried about voter subgroups, which leads to pandering on issues like same-sex marriage and amnesty for illegals.
Traditional marriage is one of the most popular issues in politics. It succeeds in Red States and Blue States.
Amnesty is unpopular among Democrats, Republicans and Independents.
We should be thinking strategically.
The Obama Bread Lines
Reagan ran well among the young
Spiral (Diary) Thursday, November 20th at 6:36PM EST (link)Reagan ran well among the young because he ran at a time when the Democrats controlled the US House, the US Senate and the White House.
The Democrats could not keep their interest groups happy while governing the country effectively. High inflation, gasoline lines, Soviet advances, Iranian hostages.
So, while Reagan was a great candidate, he had the advantage of running when the Democrats couldn’t blame anyone for their failures.
During the last 14 years, the Democrats could always say, “The reason why you can’t get what you want and need is because of Newt Gingrich/George W Bush.”
That’s over.
Expect things to change in 2010 and 2012.
I think it’s a big mistake to think that the Republican party has to adopt same-sex marriage to appeal to the youth vote and amnesty for illegal immigrants to appeal to the Hispanic vote.
If the GOP does that, the GOP will be a party that doesn’t really stand for anything and could really be in trouble.
The Obama Bread Lines
5!
Hermes (Diary) Thursday, November 20th at 10:44PM EST (link)Hit the nail on the head paulag. The battle for the next generation is going to be waged in the schools. The Right failed to appreciate this a long time ago and the result was an Obama presidency. Regain the schools and you regain the country.
Unfortunately it goes even further than that.
itsonlywords (Diary) Thursday, November 20th at 10:58PM EST (link)Not only have they taken over the schools, they’ve convinced the vast majority of the people that only “professional educators” can possibly know what it takes to educate a child. Like they’re doing such a great job with it. Yeah.
Tu ne cede malis sed contra audientor ito. ~Virgil
Do not give in to evil, but proceed evermore boldly against it.
I blame Dewey
Hermes (Diary) Thursday, November 20th at 11:02PM EST (link)He started the job of destroying the American education system. His disciples have completed it.
You win the long term battle by MOVING the electorate, not catering to them
JSobieski (Diary) Thursday, November 20th at 11:24PM EST (link)Long term and ongoing success is the goal, not victory in a single election (which is why Rove ultimately is no genius).
My rules of the road for primary season.
Rule #1: Vote for YOUR first choice in the primaries
Rule #2: Vote for the R in the general.
Rule #3: Don’t let anyone convince you to violate Rule #1 or Rule #2
Rule #4: When in a center-right argument, reaffirm Rules #1-#3–it will help us all to get along better.
Rule #5: If you are using the language of the left, you probably aren’t furthering conservativism
Rule #6: The priority is issues first, candidates second, and supporters third. Nobody is bigger than the issues. Conversely, if you spend your time focusing on supporters, you are wasting everyone’s time.
STOP THE MADNESS!
A reduction in the rate of spending increases is NOT a cut!
In-state tuition for illegals is NOT amnesty!
Requiring someone to pay their medical bills is NOT an individual mandate!
Reducing tax rates is NOT a tax increase!
I don't know about Dewey.
itsonlywords (Diary) Thursday, November 20th at 11:42PM EST (link)I’m just a Mom…no fancy college degree here. But I think I can recognize a scam when I see one and what the public schools are offering today is snake oil.
When parents complained that their kids weren’t learning anything, the schools figured out that they could fool the parents by assigning more homework – my daughter carries a crushing load of mostly worthless homework (AP classes excepted). Yet I know that she’s learning less history (but more about “cultures”)and less grammar, punctuation and spelling (but reading more literature by authors of “color” – who needs Shakespeare anyway?).
The math curriculum is a joke; the kids spend more time talking about doing math and explaining why their answers are right (even if they’re wrong) than actually doing math. My daughter’s only salvation was a gifted classroom in elementary school with a traditional math curriculum, skipping the junior high curriculum altogether, and getting through the three years of basic high school curriculum and into pre-calculus as quickly as possible. And on that happy day, she brought her math book home, opened it up to show me and said, “Look! Actual problems!”
To get back on topic, it’s no wonder that the schools turn out people who have no critical thinking skills. These are people who were weaned on Sesame Street and spoon fed only the information the “professional educators” deemed appropriate. It’s no wonder people don’t fear socialism; they don’t understand the basic principals of economics or have any historical perspective. It’s no wonder that African-Americans are still in bondage to the Democrats because they don’t know the truth even about the history of the civil rights movement.
It’s sad and frustrating and the final solution will take a generation but we can’t must get started before yet another generation is lost.
Tu ne cede malis sed contra audientor ito. ~Virgil
Do not give in to evil, but proceed evermore boldly against it.
Agreed
Hermes (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 12:30AM EST (link)All good points and I heartily agree.
A good rule of thumb: trust no one with a degree in education (and the higher up the totem pole, the worse they become: M.Ed., Ed.S., Ed.D.).
I’m biased, of course, but the only educators that I consider to be worth the name are those with degrees in actual fields (history, English, mathematics, etc.) not degrees in educational administration or curriculum mangament or whatever the hot terms are now in various colleges of education across the country.
And, again, you are perfectly right in fearing the moral and cultural relativism being taught by today’s folk Marxist junior high and secondary school teachers. If you will allow a suggestion: when it comes time for you to research colleges for your daughter to attend, order ISI’s guide to colleges. ISI (the Intercollegiate Studies Institute) is something of a conservative watchdog for college campuses. They generally give high ratings to colleges that require a Western Civ/Great Books core curriculum.
I wish
itsonlywords (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 12:38AM EST (link)I wish we could choose a college with cost not being a consideration…but we can’t. Otherwise, I’d send her to Hillsdale or Baylor or California Baptist. We are following the scholarship dollars so it looks like it will be Alabama, Nebraska, Arizona or (I wish she would go to this next one…full ride scholarship) Ball State. She is pretty well grounded in conservatism and can recognize a logical fallacy when she hears one.
Tu ne cede malis sed contra audientor ito. ~Virgil
Do not give in to evil, but proceed evermore boldly against it.
Collages
1stRichard (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 3:13PM EST (link)I dug this one out of my archives as to the thinking that Western Mass Collages provide as an example and some insight to the thinking that is being taught. You are welcome to pass this around as an example and as what Collages do in the face of 9|11. This truly made me sick…
Western Mass and it truly is worse then what most think…
Why we burned the flag.
Re: Amherst Forum (Admin)
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2001 15:39:02 GMT
From: burningissue burningissue@hotmail.com
We are a group of people from the local community who are responsible for the flag-burning protest at the Assembly for Patriotism at Amherst College on Thursday, October 18, 2001. We don’t have one identity. We represent no institution. We each come from different struggles, and we all bring different ideas to the table. We are writing to respond to the heated dialogue surrounding last Thursday’s events to explain our motivations behind this action.
The American flag represents freedom, democracy, and unity to some, but to others it symbolizes the opposite. The United States of America is built upon a history of violence and repression. This began with the genocide of Native Americans who inhabited this land before the arrival of European colonizers and it continued as Black people were brought here as slaves to provide the labor necessary for the country’s development. Still today, Mexicans living in the West are regarded as “illegal aliens” in a land that was their home long before it was conquered by the U.S. in 1848, and immigrants continue to arrive every day to this country sold on the “American dream”, only to be forced into menial work deemed unfit for “real Americans.” The construction and maintenance of America depends on the marginalization and exploitation of those excluded.
This nation was shaped not only by founding fathers, politicians, generals and businessmen, but also by the popular struggles that resisted them, from slave revolts and “Indian wars” to the Civil Rights Movement and urban uprisings. While many struggled for liberation, the U.S. military fought wars of conquest for global supremacy and economic domination in the name of freedom. Freedom means different things to different people. Freedoms of property ownership and upward mobility are granted to some Americans at the expense of freedoms of survival and self-determination for much of the rest of the world. At this time, the American flag is being invoked to celebrate one particular vision of freedom, without regard to contradictions within and resistance to that vision.
Since September 11th, the media has been portraying an unprecedented unity among diverse communities. During this time, people who have been historically marginalized (i.e. Blacks, Latinos, queers, etc.) are granted temporary insider status, while those who are perceived to be Arab, Muslim or Middle Eastern are further alienated and attacked. Now, as always, national pride is dependent on the invention and persecution of a common enemy. America is not just a place, it is a false notion of a unified people, defined more by who is excluded than who is included. To defend this concept of America is to declare war on those positioned outside of its boundaries, and on those who call its legitimacy into question.
Although all nations have histories of violence, we oppose the way that the United States constitutes itself as a superpower through the intersection of imperialism, racism and nationalism. The U.S. follows in a long tradition of colonial empires, employing enforced economic dependency and cultural imperialism as techniues of domination. This is why we choose to burn the American flag–not to express hatred for this place or the people who live here, but to delegitimize the symbol of nationalistic fervor and to recognize forgotten histories of resistance. We do not wish to disrespect those who lost lives or loved ones on September 11th. We simply refuse to continue the pattern of valuing the lives of U.S. citizens over others. We put these American victims in context with all the casualties in the ongoing war waged by U.S. imperialism. America is a war, and all wars have casualties.
In countries that overtly censor dissidents, thousands have been risking their lives in anti-America demonstrations. Here, where we supposedly have unparalleled freedoms, we internalize the government’s repression. This creates fear and self-censorship in our minds and bodies. It turns us against ourselves and our communities, and silences us. The government doesn’t have to censor this message; it can allow this criticism to be printed without fear of public response. We are afraid to demonstrate because, as dissenters, we face losing our jobs and being threatened, silenced, and marginalized by other citizens and the police. Even more so, the marginalized communities in this country face police brutality, institutionalized repression, and relentless bigotry on a daily basis, eliminating the voice of those who have the most cause to speak out.
Though it can be difficult, we are compelled to act because we recognize that we have the privilege and freedom to do so without severe repercussions. This freedom is meaningless if it remains unused. Since our actions, many have insisted that if we don’t like this country, then we should just leave. However, we understand the interconnected destructiveness of all nation-states, and recognize that we cannot escape the influence of the U.S. or our complicity in that legacy. We carry the U.S. inside of us, even as we cross borders. Since we grew up here, this must be our starting point.
Thank you to all those who listened, engaged and supported us. we can be contacted at burningissue@hotmail.com
Liberal Indoctrination Centers
itsonlywords (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 5:41PM EST (link)Yeah. We told our daughter up front, no Ivy Leagues or Ivy League wanna-bes, even though she would have a chance to be accepted. It seems like the higher a school is in the US News rankings, the more of a liberal indoctrination center it is.
What better way to motivate the best and brightest to go to those schools than to tell them those schools are the best?
Tu ne cede malis sed contra audientor ito. ~Virgil
Do not give in to evil, but proceed evermore boldly against it.
Gotta be careful with those ratings
Hermes (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 6:20PM EST (link)US Snooze and World Report tends to overemphasize endowment in its college ratings which is part of the reason that the lists don’t change all that much. Additionally, they don’t take into account strengths of specific departments. An example would be Harvard’s history department which is average at best, although the university itself is rated top notch by US Snooze. Another good example is Tulane which isn’t rated all that highly overall, but has a top notch ethics and public policy program.
Re: the Ivies. In general, I agree with you Paulag, but there are a few exceptions to the rule: Dartmouth isn’t a complete bastion of liberalism; neither is Stanford. The Southern Ivy League (- Duke) hasn’t been completely overrun by bolsheviks either: Vanderbilt, Tulane, Southern Methodist, Rice.
Not sure if any of these are options, but at least you have more information to think over.
My favorite
itsonlywords (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 6:30PM EST (link)Rating criteria is “Exclusivity.” How worthless is that? Any school can boost their exclusivity rating by marketing to thousands of high school students who have no chance of being accepted – and then rejecting them. Lame.
She’s already accepted at Alabama with a fat scholarship and is applying to their honors college today. She’ll probably end up there.
Tu ne cede malis sed contra audientor ito. ~Virgil
Do not give in to evil, but proceed evermore boldly against it.
Nice
Hermes (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 9:48PM EST (link)Please extend my congratulations to your daughter. Her hard work has obviously paid off. If she is interested in pursuing an academic career and moving on to graduate school, she will definitely want to give some serious thought to picking a senior thesis (if she stays in the honors college). That thesis, if well written and with a good topic, can make writing a master’s thesis or doctoral dissertation much much easier. Instead of having to start from scratch, she will just build on what she has already done.
Again, congratulations to her and I wish her the best of success in the future.
Thank you
itsonlywords (Diary) Friday, November 21st at 10:07PM EST (link)That’s very kind.
She will be majoring (probably – anything can happen) in history with hopes of being a novelist. I think however, that since her undergraduate degree is going to cost us practically nothing, we may help her finance an advanced degree if she wants to pursue one. I’ll pass on your congratulations and your advice about the thesis; she’s not likely to forget.
Tu ne cede malis sed contra audientor ito. ~Virgil
Do not give in to evil, but proceed evermore boldly against it.