….when he spoke about General Grant….we can’t spare this woman, she fights!

What the hell, I’m in for $50. Anybody else?

It made me uncomfortable. I disagree with a lot of positions on the left, but saying that someone should do an expose on whether they are anti-American is NOT something I can get behind. They are opponents…not enemies.

Michele Bachmann is just another republican sinking into the cesspool of hate.

Desperation driven high speed reaction to the obvious fact America has turned her back on all the awful things that define today’s so called republicans.

My advice to the gop … pack up the pickup and enjoy a second 40 year run of obscurity and irrelevance!!

Unfortunately Bachmann fell into Matthews’ trap (writing that sounds funny) and focused on the anti-American comment.

It is even more unfortunate that she called for a penetrating expose to discover which members of Congress are anti-American.

Anyways I would prefer that Red State spend its effort on less toxic Republicans. Calling Bachmann a patriot for insinuating that liberals are anti-American and firing up the online left seems misguided.

Sooooooooooo

Republicans now favor non licensed non tax paying workers?

Amazing what desperation has done to the gop the past month!!

….around here. Moderators?

And while I think it’s possible that the Representative may have misspoken at the time, she hasn’t done much to clear up the impression.

Calling someone anti-american is a problem…even those who disagree with us have to be respected. I’m not saying that people on the left live up to that respect, believe me, I’m not…that’s why I’m here, but we as a people need to work together.

I’m all for a vigorous national debate, an American free market of ideas. But I think it’s wrong to say someone is anti-american just because they love their nation in a different way than you do.

when Bachman let “Tingle-boy” railroad her down the anti-American track. She seems like a fine conservative voice to me, but did not handle the interview very well. Calling for in-depth investigations of congress for anti-Americans is over the top, especially on a public forum. What she should have done was say something like this…

“I am not saying anybody is anti-American. But the American people have a right to ask questions when a presidential candidate will not wear a flag pin, or put his hand over his heart during the pledge of allegience, or associates with anti-American radicals. These are things that individually, for the average American, would be within the range of views extant in America, but for a presidential candidate, very odd. It would seem that you would have to have some pretty strong motivations driving you to turn away from the obvious easy path of wearing the pin, putting your hand over your heart and avoiding associations with terrorists, and put yourself in the position of having to answer questions about it. Americans want to know what are the motivations? A clear answer might make the questions go away. I have not heard one yet.”

Bachmann, with two n’s

My apologies to a great American.

It’s interesting that her opponent has gotten $750,000 in donations in 3 days after her remarks. That shows most people don’t like to hear these kinds of comments. She seems to be one of those people who is paranoid and scared that danger lurks around every corner.

And It’s tiring to see everyone try to ‘own’ patriotism. You can dislike things about America and still be pro-america. I hate the racism that is prevalent in America, but I an not anti-America. Bachman doesn’t understand that.

I think Republicans will lose more ground if people like her try to speak for the entire party.

is a relative term in America, and that is good. We have a wide range of ideals and so people’s definitions of patriotism vary widely. Being a patriot does not mean that you love all things American. Some liberals love our civil rights laws and hate corporate America. Some conservatives love our freedom and hate the freedom usurping bureaucracy.

But beyond patriotism, it seems to me that our greatest divide is socio-economic. Liberals want more “social justice” than is currently granted by our constitution as interpreted by the courts, despite the cost to the economy and other freedoms. Conservatives want as much “social justice” as can be gained while preserving our economy and our other consitutional freedoms. The former will lead to economic bankruptcy and social chaos like we saw in the Soviet Union. The latter leads to the most just society possible without creating a dictatorial bureaucracy ala Kafka (in my opinion the last 8 years have been a weird combination of the two, I’m sad to say). Obama is the agent of the former in this election, and McCain, though I wonder about him sometimes, is the agent of the latter, or at least the agent of resisting the former.

This election comes down to choosing a European style social democracy or continuing to try to refine and perfect our imperfect, but superior capitalist republic.

So do I question the patriotism of those that would impose socialism on America? Yes. Socialism is clearly anti-American. That does not mean that you cannot be a socialist and a patriot, but if you are, in my judgement, you are missing the point of what America is and has been since 1776.

thanks for publicizing here race ‘tee

while I know how the media can turn, twist, and distort without breaking a sweat, I’m not very sympathetic to Rep. Bachmann. I disagree with a ton of Congressmen–I don’t suspect any of them of being “anti-American.” She’s smart enough to know better.

bachmann is an idoit

That I was 48 feet to the west… Then, I would be in her district.

So I did the next best thing. I gave her some $ to fit the smear machine.

While I’m proudly a liberal I come here often to get a sense of what’s going on with the other side of the isle and as usual I find a posts or two that make me laugh. But this one was a whooper.

To the “author” of this post I say you maybe one of the few people who think this woman is correct. No one deserves to be called anti-american just because they have different views on social issues. But this does prove a point many of the left hold in that most of what’s left of the Republic party are “scorched earth over my dead body zealots”.

Ah yes…I remember such a heady time for George Bush, back when he had a passionate following, when the Dixie Chicks were banned from radio station playlists for speaking out against the administration.

The American people don’t take criticism of their favorite leaders kindly. Conservatives were on the receiving end of such devotion just a few years ago and they pissed away the people’s trust and devotion. Now it hurts to see the same devotion redirected.

Matthews roped Bachmann, She was put on the spot and defensively responded, but clarified after, and now it’s taking up much blog oxygen.

To the Right — If Bachmann’s intent was to help McCain as a surrogate, which, at this point, is to sway independent/undecided voters, she didn’t do it. She should know better. Now she does. She will still win her district.

To my fellow Lefties — It doesn’t show much confidence in Obama if you jump on a “throw away” statement just to make a point to the choir. You won’t find that choir on Redstate. Bachmann’s statement was no worse than statements which come from our side everyday.

To fellow Lefties on this site — Be respectful and don’t purposely antagonize on this site. It is a conservative forum. They generously tolerate us and genuinely consider our opinions. If you need to torture logic for a point in a post, don’t. They will see it in a heartbeat. So play honest.

Lost my old RedState account in the redesign, and now finally got around to registering for a new one.

I’m voting McCain/Palin all the way, and Republicans straight down the ticket, but I am not voting for Michelle Bachmann, she’s an embarassment whose only major bill had something to do with light bulbs. There is a better choice.

Aubrey Immelmann, sensible Republican, has decided to challenge Bachmann again (after failing to best her in the primary). Immelmann is a moderate reformer and professor (from my alma mater!) who reminds me of one Sarah Palin (although not nearly as attractive).

The 6th District has better options than Bachmann and Tinklepants. Write in Aubrey Immelmann for Congress.