Chuck DeVore


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There are 11 days left until California voters choose who will challenge Barbara Boxer in the fall.

It is my belief that neither Campbell nor Fiorina can succeed in unseating Sen. Boxer while Chuck DeVore can.

But Chuck needs our help.

You can help by making calls and sharing how the candidates compare on the issues.

If you want a conservative to represent California in the Senate you must be willing to do the grassroots work.

If you believe that we conservatives win when we offer a choice rather than an echo, then now is the time to act.

There are 11 days left until California voters choose who will challenge Barbara Boxer in the fall.

Aaron B. Gardner


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This is winnable

Neil Stevens (Diary) Friday, May 28th at 4:32PM EST (link)

Boxer is weak. She’s no Feinstein. Our nominee can beat her period.

Plus Campbell is collapsing. Fiorina is up 20. DeVore supporters have no reason to make a tactical vote shift. I already filled in Chucks line on my ballot.

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Others in CA would disagree

SteveLA (Diary) Friday, May 28th at 6:19PM EST (link)

Neil, others in CA who are not part of the Tom McClintock wing of the R party out here in CA would disagree with you. Mostly the Congressional R’s from CA.are not backing DeVore.

Endorsements for Fiorina:

Honorable Howard P. “Buck” McKeon
Honorable George Radanovich
Honorable Devin Nunes
Honorable Gary Miller
Honorable Mary Bono Mack
Honorable Kevin McCarthy

Throw in Palin’s endorsement, DeVore does not stand much of a chance of winning the primary.

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Yeah...

Neil Stevens (Diary) Friday, May 28th at 6:27PM EST (link)

This from the guy who thinks that parental notification is a radical right position.

You wouldn’t know conservatism if it bit you.

The fact that you use Tom McClintock as a sneer says it all about you really.

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I missed something

SteveLA (Diary) Friday, May 28th at 6:43PM EST (link)

Neil

This is the second time you or Aaron used that line. I voted in favor of Props, 4, 85, and what ever the heck the number of the one that is going to be on the ballot in November. I do support judicial bypass provisions in what ever law is put up on the topic of abortions for under age girls, because some parents/guardians are part of the problem. Parental notifications are not a radical right position, as long as there are judicial bypasses in the case of issues with the family. Heck I even voted for Prop 8, because I disagree with Gods in Black Robes deciding these matters, let “we the people decide”.

But you’re right, I disagree with most of the crazy stuff that the Tom McClintock out of touch wing of the CA Republican party supports. I don’t support ending civil unions or calls for bans on Gay adoption or any of the other out of step with the general electorate junk contained in the current CA Republican platform, but hey I am a social conservative RINO.

Want to compare notes about issues we probably agree on that are effecting CA; law and order, taxes, spending, illegal immigration or other issues that unite Republicans in CA, I’m good with that.

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Good Grief

Neil Stevens (Diary) Friday, May 28th at 7:18PM EST (link)

You accused Bill Simon, among others, of running on radical right positions. You’ve said the same of our platform.

Bill Simon ran on parental notification. Ditto our platform.

So guess what? It’s incredibly pointless for you to come here and try to lecture us, at RedState, sneering at our positions.

You are in the minority here and you discredit everything you touch when you post like that.

So yeah, go ahead, keep trying to use Tom McClintock’s name as a weapon. The more that national Republicans see how solid he is, they’ll see all the more just how left fringe you are for opposing him.

Because we all know you’d rather Charlie Brown be there.

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Bill Simon?

SteveLA (Diary) Friday, May 28th at 7:38PM EST (link)

I had to look him up. Really, he last ran for Governor in what 2002? That’s 8 years ago, and I don’t recall him being covered ever here on RS let alone any comment I can recall ever making about him. I’m confused by this one for sure, maybe someone else?

Yes, Tom McClintock who has endorsed Steve Poizner with all his wrong stances on issues. Everything from supporting AlGore during his challenge to President Bush, to trying to cut holes in Prop 13 to raise taxes and I won’t even point out his stances on abortion which is not one of the issues that is a decider for me. That Tom McClintock?

Charlie Brown, no I’m not going to advocate for him, but I probably flew with him on active duty, so yes I have much more respect for him than Tom McClintock, it’s a bias of mine.

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I'm voting Poizner too

Neil Stevens (Diary) Friday, May 28th at 7:42PM EST (link)

Even you should see he’s better than the Van Jones loving, Delta Smelt kissing, Boxer supporting extremist like Meg Wh itman.

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Ahhh No

SteveLA (Diary) Friday, May 28th at 7:49PM EST (link)

His 10K given to AlGore … strike one.

His support and leadership of Prop 93 to change term limits…strike two.

His support on Prop 39…strike three.

I won’t be voting for Mr. Poizner….

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This is one race where I truly wish everyone could lose

civil truth (Diary) Friday, May 28th at 8:04PM EST (link)

Republican and Democratic candidates alike. The choice of candidates for governor is an indictment of the depths to which both parties have sunk in terms.

That said, the shrunken CA Republicans are still the only buffer against the Democrats driving the state into fiscal apocalypse.

The greatest evil…is conceived and ordered (moved, seconded, carried, and minuted) in clean, carpeted, warmed, and well-lighted offices, by quiet men with white collars and cut fingernails and smooth-shaven cheeks who do not need to raise their voice. Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the offices of a thoroughly nasty business concern. -C.S. Lewis

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Correct

SteveLA (Diary) Friday, May 28th at 8:13PM EST (link)

civil_truth

But what are the root causes of the shrunken Republican party in CA?

I thought the CA R party was going to come back when we elected the Governator Girlyman because he ran as someone who was going to be serious about cutting spending in the state, that turned out to be a FAIL.

The perfect Governor here in CA; one that only wants to be in office one term and who is willing to take on both the D’s and R’s over spending. Use the darn line item veto to balance the budget and let the fights begin over the role of government out here. I’d vote for a NJ Christie type take no prisoners in a second, sadly we’ll never see one like that out here.

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Um, Al Gore isn't on the ballot

Neil Stevens (Diary) Friday, May 28th at 8:06PM EST (link)

Babs Boxer is.

Whitman could undermine our Senate candidate.

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Strange endorsement

SteveLA (Diary) Friday, May 28th at 8:24PM EST (link)

Neil

You of the “No ProAbort” stance backing Poizner, I don’t get it. There’s tons of information about Poizner on abortion, Flash Report, videos and others where he promotes his Pro-Choice credentials. I don’t understand the disconnect.

It’s not my issue, I’m probably closer to Scott Brown on this issue as a matter of settled law, but supporting reasonable restrictions on abortion like parental notification and probably some sort of independent medical review law for late term abortions to insure there is a true life of the mother issue.

My issue with Poziner is that I don’t trust him on raising taxes or breaking Prop 13 in some way to support raising taxes for education. There’s plenty of cuts that can be made in the CA budget, it just takes the political courage to do so. Something I see little of in the CA R’s in the assembly and for sure not in the Girlyman Governator.

How would Whitman undermine the Senate candidate, I don’t understand how that would happen.

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Your last bit doesn't surprise me

Neil Stevens (Diary) Friday, May 28th at 8:31PM EST (link)

Given your usual pastiche of ignorance and misinformation about California politics.

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Is that an answer?

SteveLA (Diary) Friday, May 28th at 8:42PM EST (link)

Neil

That was an honest question, care to give an honest answer as to why you support Poziner who at one point claimed to be Pro-Choice? His past stances on the abortion issue would appear to go against your NoProAbort stance.

I gave you reasons why fiscal conservative CA R’s should not trust Poizner, where am I getting that wrong? Forget that Poizner tried to change term limits, that I support, or that he once supported Prop 39, but has now changed his mind? I don’t trust him on raising taxes.

How is Meg going to undermine Fiorina, I really don’t understand.

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Accuracy check.

thinktank Friday, May 28th at 10:06PM EST (link)

@stevela, Poizner actually gave a few million to help defeat Prop 93, so that strike should actually get removed.

Dang I read that wrong

SteveLA (Diary) Friday, May 28th at 10:16PM EST (link)

thinktank

You are quite right and I am wrong.

So a new strike, Mt. Pleasant HS, the book, the “award”.

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What am I missing here?

reddogreport (Diary) Friday, May 28th at 4:33PM EST (link)

I do not see why there is anything to think about here. Carly “Cap & Tax” Fiorina and Tom “Sometimes taxes are good” Campbell are the worst choices for California.

Chuck DeVore has exactly what California, and the rest of the nation, needs for the US Senate. Easy choice.

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Open primary (nt)

Neil Stevens (Diary) Friday, May 28th at 4:35PM EST (link)

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The 'worst choices for California'?

Diogenes314 (Diary) Friday, May 28th at 5:02PM EST (link)

Do not agree. Re-electing Boxer would be the worst choice for Kali and the nation.

 
 

The ad was a little boring.

NeoKong (Diary) Friday, May 28th at 5:10PM EST (link)

I hope there are better ones being run.
A few celebrities woodn’t hoyt maybe…

People have attention spans of fruit flies. You gotta’ jazz it up and make it memorable.
I just watched it twice and already forgot it.

Follow me on Twitter.

 

the freeways are

pamela1631 (Diary) Friday, May 28th at 6:58PM EST (link)

totally backed up, so the scratch-made brownies will be delivered tomorrow.

There’s a real simple way to solve the problems California has been having. Toss most of the people in Sacramento out on their ears and Vote Chuck Devore the next Senator from California.

We have the ultimate power to make California GREAT again.

Our Vote. Use it wisely.

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The greatest civilization is one where all citizens are equally armed and can only be persuaded, never forced.~~Maj. L. Caudill, USMC (Ret.)

 

Mike Huckabee

RINKER Friday, May 28th at 10:29PM EST (link)

Mike Huckabee endorsing someone makes me LESS likely to vote for them. Tax-and-spend Huckster doesn’t sway me in favor of a candidate. He has endorsed a lot of canidates I like, though.
It will be interesting to see what happens and which polls are right. None of the three candidates are perfect, but of course I’m on record as saying Fiorina would be my pick. I just don’t agree with DeVore’s foreign policy. Too much like Ron Paul’s to me.

Why are you still pushing that lie RINKER? nt

Aaron Gardner (Diary) Saturday, May 29th at 12:51PM EST (link)

conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!

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Because it is TRUE.

RINKER Saturday, May 29th at 9:38PM EST (link)

http://diplomatdc.wordpress.com/2010/03/11/have-they-forgotten-911-five-republicans-and-chuck-devore-want-us-out-of-afghanistan-by-gregory-hilton/

http://www.fontcraft.com/broadside/?p=26651

You spin it to make it look true, but it isn't.

Aaron Gardner (Diary) Sunday, May 30th at 1:01PM EST (link)

And you can’t show any direct quotes from DeVore to prove it as true unless you misquotes out of context.

But you already know that because we have already gone over this.

You just refuse to accept it because you are much happier pushing a smear again DeVore.

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I don't want to smear DeVore

RINKER Sunday, May 30th at 10:08PM EST (link)

He is better than Fiorina on a lot of issues, and I know she isn’t a perfect candidate. I think you are so enamored with him, you want to ignore any bad stuff about him. I don’t know you, but that is the impression I get.
The only candidate I have found that I like 100% is Marco Rubio. Many of the others, including many, many good solid conservatives, have wrong views or flaws. Some of them I can overlook, some I can’t. I’m not convinced Chuck DeVore isn’t a Ron Paul type on foreign policy. We heard arguments that Rand Paul wasn’t at all like his father, but after the primary, we had news story after news story on how his victory was a big win for the isolationists in the GOP. What truly turned it for me was when he said in that debate that the “Taliban poses no existential threat to the U.S.” I just don’t agree.

 
 
 
 
 

I would rather

jimmyneutron Saturday, May 29th at 1:14AM EST (link)

see the democrat win in any race than to see another ‘ahnold’ liberal republican win who will pretty much go along with all the democrats want to do, which will give the democrats someone else to blame for the inevitable consequences of their policies. Why support someone who wants to take the road to hell, only take it more slowly???

Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!

Look at how the "RINOs" performed this year in Congress

Adjoran (Diary) Saturday, May 29th at 1:53AM EST (link)

They stood with the party on health care, only one defection in the House and none in the Senate – and Cao opposed the second vote.

So even those “Rs” we least admire stood up. So much for your complaint they will “pretty much go along with all the democrats want to do” . . .

Sorry, preferring Boxer over even the worst choice, Campbell, makes no rational sense. If we change your analogy to the more common one, that we are in a car headed towards a cliff at 60 mph. Does it make any sense to reject those who would drive only 30, while we figure out another way to put on the brakes?

Those who demand all or nothing nearly always end up with nothing.

Please...

RINKER Saturday, May 29th at 9:40PM EST (link)

The RINO’s did okay in opposition, but they fought Bush’s tax cuts tooth-and-nail. They make governing with conservative principles (what few Bush had) very difficult.

 
 

Concur on rinos

nepanyrush Monday, May 31st at 2:33PM EST (link)

I am from PA and don’t know Fiorina well enough enough to know if she’s a Rino (Rio-rino?) or not. But if she is a Specter-type Rino, then I understand your feelings on the matter. Specter is now lamenting that he did not stay a Republican in order that he could have supported better Obama’s agenda, such as the health-care plan.

If a Republican is elected who will just lend cover to Obama’s agenda (“See, the bill got bipartisan support!”), then it would be very hard to be enthused about the election. This is coming from someone who regrets supporting Specter because Bush/Santorum and the GOP establishment told me to support him over Toomey. I was regretting having him in the Senate within three months of the election. He used his position to attack Rush Limbaugh, Bush, and various others on the Republican and/or conservative side, and the press played this here in PA as if “his principled, above politics stand” showed how out of touch conservatives (read, “right-wing”) were with the American people.

Of course, all this changes if there is a possibility that control of the Senate or House could change hands because of the Rinos. If the Rinos are needed for that purpose, then they can serve a useful purpose.

 
 

Only DeVore can beat Boxer

swanie Sunday, May 30th at 12:13AM EST (link)

The Dem’s are positively salivating hoping for a TaxmanCampbell or FioRINO primary win so that they can unleash the dirt and investigations on either of the RINOs. The fear DeVore and they should! He is PRINCIPLED and a PROVEN LEADER. The GOP-establishment does care much for leaders anymore…they want party “yes” people so they can barter and trade votes for cash. They also know that momentum and REAL CONSERVATISM are popular and on the rise!

Sounds like some of the posters above know this too!

Unfortunately, Calif. and the Nation are doomed if we don’t break the GOP-establishment. We need REAL STRENGTH, REAL LEADERSHIP….WE NEED CHUCK DEVORE!

In What Dimension?

Don't Tase Me Bro Tuesday, June 1st at 12:25PM EST (link)

The latest poll out from the weekend shows Campbell up seven points over Boxer. The same poll shows DeVore trailing her by ten. I don’t typically like to gauge support for a candidate based on polling this far out from an election, but when I see a statement like yours I find it worth bringing up.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/elections/

Chuck DeVore is unlikely to defeat Boxer in a statewide race. Despite her unpopularity, California is too liberal of a state to elect someone as conservative as DeVore to a statewide office. I’d be happy to support DeVore if he were running in a red state, but not in Cali.

 
 

Send DeVore $$

Sunnie57 Sunday, May 30th at 10:47PM EST (link)

If you can afford it.

 

Dream on redstate

jwhoward (Diary) Monday, May 31st at 1:44PM EST (link)

Survey USA Poll:
Fiorina 46
Campbell 23
Devore 14

PPP Poll:
Fiorina 41
Campbell 21
Devore 16

Magellan Poll:
Fiorina 44
Campbell 21
Devore 14

LA Times Poll:
Fiorina 38
Campbell 23
Devore 16

All taken within the last two weeks.

Are those the delicate strains of “Nearer My God to Thee” that I hear at redstate and Devore headquarters?

For the record: I am supporting Carly Fiorina for US Senate; have given her money and have already voted for her. I would not want Aaron to feel deceived.

JW Howard

Tip

Neil Stevens (Diary) Monday, May 31st at 1:59PM EST (link)

Fiorina is going to be in desperate need of DeVore voters after the primary.

Don’t go out of your way to be nasty and alienate any of them.

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I appreciate your sentiment

jwhoward (Diary) Monday, May 31st at 3:37PM EST (link)

JW Howard

 
 

That's not needed

SteveLA (Diary) Monday, May 31st at 2:03PM EST (link)

jwhoward

That’s really not helpful at all. The only thing that counts is beating BABS, how does your finger in the eye of the DeVore supporters accomplish that feat?

Geesh

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Thanks, SteveLA

jwhoward (Diary) Monday, May 31st at 3:50PM EST (link)

I understand your position. You are right that all that counts is beating Boxer. I appreciate your comments throughout this exchange.

JW Howard

JW Howard

 
 

Really helpful.

Bill S (Diary) Monday, May 31st at 2:24PM EST (link)

I think I hear the strains of “I’m going to ask the moderators to ban your ass”

“It’s such a fine line between stupid, and clever.” – David St. Hubbins

 

You still left off that you are on Carly's Leadership Team.

Aaron Gardner (Diary) Monday, May 31st at 2:25PM EST (link)

But you are a liar, so I didn’t expect you to be honest with us here.

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