With the Executive Order calling for the closure of the GITMO detainment facility we all asked “What are you going to do with them?” Well now we can safely say that the Obama Administration intends to release these enemy combatants directly into our communities.
Now I am not talking about a transfer of prisoners to Federal Penitentiaries, which would also be a bad idea, no I am talking about these people being released as free men into our country. Furthermore, those released will not have even gone through a trial according to the Wall Street Journal’s article.
Mr. Holder, in a briefing with reporters, said administration officials are still reviewing individual cases of the approximately 250 detainees to determine which will be put on trial and which may be released to comply with plans to close the detention facility by next year.
Some still may not believe that this is really AG Holder’s intent…well let’s look at the direct quote:
people who can be released there are a variety of options that we have and among them is the possibility is that we would release them into this country, That process is ongoing and we’ve not made any determinations or made any requests of anybody at this point.
So these people who were captured on the battlefield are now going to be de facto citizens of the USA. I would think that we would at least want to send them back to their home nations, but no, Holder doesn’t like that idea because
Among the detainees whose fate remains undetermined are 17 ethnic Uighurs, from the Central Asian region of China, who have been ordered released by a judge. The U.S. has refused to turn the men over to China, which considers them part of an separatist group
Now I understand that China is a big Human Rights abuser, but this time I agree with them. Apparently AG Holder is worried more about the “rights” of these enemy combatants than he is our own citizens.
Releasing these individuals into our general population will, no doubt, weaken our ability to guard against another attack on our homeland. It is foolish and wrongheaded…it is the Obama Administration.
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How is this not treason on Holders part? (nt)
RJD (Diary) Thursday, March 19th at 10:50AM EST (link)nt
Treason would be to oppose Holder's actions
civil truth (Diary) Thursday, March 19th at 1:05PM EST (link)If you control the government, you get to define the term. Especially if the courts are taken over by “living Constitution” types.
The greatest evil…is conceived and ordered (moved, seconded, carried, and minuted) in clean, carpeted, warmed, and well-lighted offices, by quiet men with white collars and cut fingernails and smooth-shaven cheeks who do not need to raise their voice. Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the offices of a thoroughly nasty business concern. -C.S. Lewis
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Too late!!
AceInTX (Diary) Thursday, March 19th at 1:08PM EST (link)The Chinese terrorists mentioned were ordered released by a liberal judge!
You beat me to the punch on this one AG...
AceInTX (Diary) Thursday, March 19th at 1:07PM EST (link)I think we’ve past the point of wondering if the Democrats are incompetent or stupid and are fast approaching a point where we need start asking if they are deliberately looking for another attack to happen here bacause anyone with a modicum of common sense should know that’s what this will result in!
Ask Joe Biden Ace...
Aaron Gardner (Diary) Thursday, March 19th at 1:14PM EST (link)conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!
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Yeah...but would the Golden Child really engineer his own test?
AceInTX (Diary) Thursday, March 19th at 1:28PM EST (link)it sure is beginning to look that way!
I’m not a conspiracy kook…but how else do you explain this?
I suspect this is another trial balloon like the soldiers paying for war injuries
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Friday, March 20th at 9:10AM EST (link)and will never happen.
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I disagree GC....
Aaron Gardner (Diary) Friday, March 20th at 9:17AM EST (link)I really think that they will do it…but they will cover it all in the guise of humanitarian assistance and offerings of asylum from their hostile countries.
At this point I wouldn’t put anything past these guys.
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They could be VERY selective and release a few, but it would be very risky
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Friday, March 20th at 9:36AM EST (link)in case we get attacked again on our soil. I know they are stupid, but think their is a limit to their stupidity in this area given all the Bush nat sec policies they have continued. It seems they got their mind right in the transition. I always said that the only way they bring any here for trial is if they have one or two they have the evidence to win in civil court. But we shall see. if they are indeed 100% buffoons.
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GC this isn't about bringing them here for trial....
Aaron Gardner (Diary) Friday, March 20th at 9:44AM EST (link)This is about releasing those for which they can’t hold trials for…or one that they have deemed to not be a threat.
And as far as Obama getting it during the transition….I don’t think that was anything more than political posturing by the Admin.
Obama is a man who does not respect the value of human life….as seen by his BAIPA vote and his vile Special Olympic comments. I truly believe he could care less, as long as he has his manufactured crisis that he will use to take our weapons and our voice.
This guy is a committed leftist….tell me which one of the committed leftists in history was really just a buffoon rather than an totalitarian tyrant?
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I know, but they also mentioned trials as well in the full Holder article
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Friday, March 20th at 10:24AM EST (link)Well, its not all political posturing given some court positions they have taken on detainees in Afghanistan and Gitmo; rendition and several other matters in this area that I don’t have time to list just now.
No one is “just” anything Aaron. People are mixtures. Obama is a mixture of buffoonery, Marxism, intelligence and stupidity!
Of course, we agree on Obama’s lack of character and his base beliefs. Al I am saying is that his actions (not just words) thus far in the nat sec area (with some major exceptions that I have written about myself on Pakistan and the UK, etc) show some sobriety against excessive risks of homeland attacks and in the area of presidential power that he has maintained. He has thus far given up NONE of the powers Bush and for that matter Washington-Lincoln-FDR-Bush have claimed for the executive.
If we were to have taken Obama for his word in the campaign, ALL of the Gitmo detainees would already be in the US either released into red states or awaiting their First OJ trial!
He hasn’t done that.
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I here you GC
Aaron Gardner (Diary) Friday, March 20th at 10:35AM EST (link)I just don’t trust these guys…not one iota. They are everything they claimed President Bush to be.
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* hear nt
Aaron Gardner (Diary) Friday, March 20th at 10:35AM EST (link)conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!
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Good God, I don't trust them either. I just see some signs that they
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Friday, March 20th at 10:48AM EST (link)understand they can’t go too far too fast. On the other hand, to even suggest releasing some into the US is quite risky as well, just like the making vets pay for war wounds was. Just like all this crap in the stimulus and now in the budget is. It seems Obama cares more about imposing Marxism and fundamental change than he does about re-election. I don’t know what’s worse.
What I do know is that we need blue dogs to actually stop some of this evil and that if the GOP is going to comeback, they need to focus on the big outrages and not join the dems on an amen chorus for the puny stuff like AIG exec bonuses.
Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com, Charlotte Observer and The Minority Report columns
“One man with courage makes a majority.” – Andrew Jackson
Remmember the whining about Bush getting a chance to be great after 911 and the lamenting that Clinton never got his chance?
AceInTX (Diary) Friday, March 20th at 11:39AM EST (link)Again, I’m not a conspiracy kook but it would give them a motive for such a stupid move…
I know…I’m sounding like an 911 tin foil hat conspiracist…and I don’t really believe he could b e playing that game…so I’ll shut up…but how dumb can these guys really be?
Ace I learned a long time ago to never underestimate a man's ability to be colossally dumb....nt
Aaron Gardner (Diary) Friday, March 20th at 11:47AM EST (link)conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!
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I'm with you there...especially when they have a D before their name! nt
AceInTX (Diary) Friday, March 20th at 1:34PM EST (link)One can always hope I suppose...but even the trial balloon is stupid! nt
AceInTX (Diary) Friday, March 20th at 11:32AM EST (link)It will likely hasten the next attack
olsmithie (Diary) Sunday, March 22nd at 11:48AM EST (link)an excuse to put federal troops on the street corner because of “the crisis”, where they will likely remain.
“Never waste a good crisis”- Rahm E
Don’t forget for a minute that these folks think they are smarter than God, and that you are dumber than a rock.
( In their mind, I think you are brilliant…)
For them to promote an attack to advance control of the people is not a stretch at all. For the outcome not to go as they predicted is pretty likely also.
Just as they kept trying to destroy the economy, it has started to turn on the Obamanation, so will this stupidity if it comes to pass.
Sadly it will involve innocents, just so the white house can be arrogant.
Think how much damage they would do if they were half as smart as they think they are…..
Regards
BTW...I had to hit Recommend 6 times to get my name on the Reco List nt
AceInTX (Diary) Thursday, March 19th at 1:26PM EST (link)Ace, you piker! I've done it up to 65 times just to reco one of Achance's.
janis (Diary) Thursday, March 19th at 1:49PM EST (link)And trying to recommend mailloux’s yesterday cost me at least 25 or 30 clicks. It’s apparently a conservative recommend button–if you want if, you’re going to have to really work hard for it.
Janis...let it be know that I appreciate your diligence wrt Rec'd...;^)...nt
Aaron Gardner (Diary) Thursday, March 19th at 1:53PM EST (link)conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!
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No problem guys, my pleasure. The carpal tunnel treatment bills will,
janis (Diary) Thursday, March 19th at 2:27PM EST (link)I assume, go to Neil? Although I guess we can wait for that nifty universal health care thing. Guess we better keep it on the down low that we were disabled pursuing right wing policies. If Obama is willing to shaft the military, we aren’t worth a hill of beans–or a bandaid.
You guys do quality work, it’s my privilege to help promote it so you’ll keep doing it.
janis, count me in with Aaron,
mailloux (Diary) Thursday, March 19th at 2:00PM EST (link)I appreciate your diligence too!
One could easily develop carpal tunnel trying to recommend diaries!
Take Care, mailloux
LOL...well...I like conservative...but 65 clicks to convince it you want to reco is a bit rediculous!
AceInTX (Diary) Friday, March 20th at 11:29AM EST (link)I was determined, Ace. Besides, if it was one of your diaries
janis (Diary) Friday, March 20th at 11:49AM EST (link)and it needed just one more reco to make the top of the list?
See there, sometimes ridiculous pays.
I didn't say I wouldn't click till my clicker finger blistered to Reco a good diary....
AceInTX (Diary) Friday, March 20th at 1:38PM EST (link)I just meant it’s ridiculous that it takes more than one click!
If they do release them into the US,
larueladue (Diary) Thursday, March 19th at 2:57PM EST (link)I hope they let someone know who they are and where they are released… That way, local law enforcement (and other civic-minded citizens) can at least keep tabs on them…
larueladue...I doubt that will happen...
Aaron Gardner (Diary) Thursday, March 19th at 3:08PM EST (link)They will probably just be dropped off somewhere in the middle of the night to start their new lives.
I am sure if the Republicans in the Congress pushed for some sort of database they would be pilloried in the press as xenophobic and all sorts of other nasty dem tactics.
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Yeah, I know that you are right....
larueladue (Diary) Thursday, March 19th at 5:52PM EST (link)It was just wishful thinking…
Would but only they were registered sex offenders
UpLateAgain (Diary) Thursday, March 19th at 3:42PM EST (link)Then we could be told where they were. Murderers and terrorists don’t count.
You never never never actually need a gun, until you need a gun, and then nothing else will do.
Of course not!
larueladue (Diary) Thursday, March 19th at 5:55PM EST (link)The are just impoverished victims… They just need a hand up… Don’t demonize these poor souls! \ (ugh!)
Hmm... My fake HTML"end sarcasm" markup didn't make it through.... (nt)
larueladue (Diary) Thursday, March 19th at 5:56PM EST (link)Ugh
justatron (Diary) Thursday, March 19th at 3:37PM EST (link)Just when I think that this bunch of abject morons we have “running” our country couldn’t get any dumber…what possible good can come of this? Would the visions of MTV and McDonald’s and American Idol so enamor these misguided souls that they would willfully give up jihad, buy a condo and a flatscreen TV?
They won't give up jihad, but I'm relatively certain that the gov.
janis (Diary) Thursday, March 19th at 4:07PM EST (link)will be happy to provide the flatscreen TV, a furnished condo and possibly a timeshare in some lovely resort area. All to get that Gitmo nastiness behind them.
What could possibly go wrong?
Don't forget the DTV converter coupon...;^)....nt
Aaron Gardner (Diary) Thursday, March 19th at 4:14PM EST (link)conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!
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Since cable isn't offered where we live and we don't
janis (Diary) Thursday, March 19th at 4:24PM EST (link)care enough about TV to get a satellite dish, our only option if we wanted to continue to receive certain programs was to get the converter box. Like a good conservative, I insisted on paying the full price and disdained the coupon offer. Imagine my disgust when I found out that the converter box was only the start of the spending. We then tried to use an indoor amplifying antenna–no dice. That was another $40.00, but we took it back, talked to some folks and then got an outdoor antenna from Radio Shack. That was $104.00 plus tax. But it didn’t come with a cable to connect it to the converter box. So that was another $24. Then we had to spring for a 10′ mast to mount the damned thing on. It took us two and a half hours to put everything together and get it up so we could watch “24″ that night.
So my hope is that these Uighurs get stuck in a rural area with lousy transmission and they go through AT LEAST as much trouble we have had to! Although I’m betting that they won’t be trying to get it worked out in order to watch Jack Bauer kill terrorists.
Geez, janis, no cable? Do they pipe in sunshine?
Achance (Diary) Thursday, March 19th at 5:07PM EST (link)And all you guys think Alaska is remote and foreign; I got fiber optic cable, digital phones and all sorts of stuff they tell me is cool.
In Vino Veritas
Got lots of sunshine, Achance, because that doesn't have to
janis (Diary) Thursday, March 19th at 5:20PM EST (link)be routed anywhere. I think it’s because houses are pretty far apart in these outlying areas. The local phone cooperative offers digital TV, but it’s so slow and clunky from what I hear that I’m not going to pay for more ineptitude from them–being hostage to them for my internet is bad enough!
While I may not have all the latest in high-tech stuff, Achance, I can grow lots of those tasty tender-skinned tomatoes. ZAP!
They're pretty far apart here too, it's at least 50 feet
Achance (Diary) Thursday, March 19th at 6:07PM EST (link)to each of my neighbors’ houses – and I have a big lot for this part of the World, a full quarter acre. You couldn’t buy one of those close in these days if your life depended on it.
But, I can drive three miles to my boat and run half an hour and the houses are a hundred miles apart. Alaska is crowded except where it is empty.
Anyway, I was just giving you and others crap because everybody thinks Alaska is so remote and foreign; the urban areas are just as urban as any other place in America. The only difference is that they’re surrounded by millions of acres of wilderness.
In Vino Veritas
Remember the 9/11 crew spent their last evening,
Achance (Diary) Thursday, March 19th at 5:04PM EST (link)more or less, in a decadent Western titty bar. It isn’t sin if you do it with an infidel or in an infidel land. If we just barred them from our Western sin dens, they’d dramatically reform their barbarous countries just so they could get a little on the side.
In Vino Veritas
Achance...they get plenty on the side in their own lands....
Aaron Gardner (Diary) Thursday, March 19th at 5:26PM EST (link)Kuwait is a dry country, technically….but give me 12 hours and I could show you at least 3 whore houses and a plethora of speakeasys.
And don’t even get me started on what goes on in the Muslim controlled areas of Bosnia, Kosovo and Macedonia.
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And that doesn't even take into account the number of innocents that they have raped
janis (Diary) Thursday, March 19th at 5:31PM EST (link)to “persuade” them to become suicide bombers in order to regain their honor.
My kid was in Kuwait, Afghanistan, and Kosovo;
Achance (Diary) Thursday, March 19th at 5:59PM EST (link)he has good stories about the “entertainment” that was available.
In Vino Veritas
Obama In Chaos
avgamerican (Diary) Thursday, March 19th at 11:35PM EST (link)Obama’s administration is in chaos but he doesn t seem worried. He ‘s out with Leno and on ESPN. His answer to the threat of terrorism is to deny it. Don t say enemy combatant and close Gitmo. One has to wonder if Obama is on planet earth or in his own imaginary world of make believe. I know this, when he said “democrats can protect America,” I didn t believe it then and I don t believe it now. And if we get attacked, I don t think Americans are going to settle for another bureaucratic 911 commission. Does anyone really believe we have not already become weaker since Jan 20?
Still campaigning
UpLateAgain (Diary) Thursday, March 19th at 11:44PM EST (link)Obama has figured out that his forte is campaigning, so he is perfectly happy to just go on doing that and let San Fran Gran Nan run the country.
Another FDR? Lincoln? even Kennedy? Nope. I don’t think so.
You never never never actually need a gun, until you need a gun, and then nothing else will do.
UpLateAgain....the hypocrisy is overwhelming...
Aaron Gardner (Diary) Friday, March 20th at 8:51AM EST (link)I remember something about the dems complaining about the “permanent campaign”..of the Bush WH….just another instance of extreme projection I suppose.
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If GITMO prisoners are to be housed near Obama's room in the WH, I'll have no complaint whatsoever. nt
Rod_Patrick (Diary) Friday, March 20th at 9:46AM EST (link)Hopefully Holder's GITMO buddies aren't "cowards on the issue of race"
pitchfork (Diary) Saturday, March 21st at 9:03PM EST (link)like the rest of us Americans.
Somewhere, an over-priced law school in New York is misisng an idiot.