After visiting this site almost daily for months now, I have finally joined. This is my first entry, and I hope not to come across too amateurish. Like many of you, I often hear commentary and interviews on the news that have incomplete or misleading information which leaves me waiting for someone to clarify or correct it. The more a particular issue gets discussed without clarity or correction, frustration ensues. With that in mind, my contribution towards the definition of a ‘small business’ follows.
With the current prominence of Joe the Plumber and Obama’s arbitrary wealth-sharing threshold of $250 Thousand in the discussion, it seems to me that the perception in the public eye of what constitutes a ‘small business’ is too subjective. Definitions are important, particularly when dealing with government regulations. The Department of Labor is the proponent which has established the criteria for what constitutes a small business, based on either annual receipts or number of employees. The criteria vary according to type of industry and can be found here
The full Small Business Administration description of a small business and associated references can be found here
A cursory glance at the Small Business Size Standard in the first link shows that the upper threshold for small business (depending on industry) could be as high as $35 Million or 1000 employees. The Obama campaign has said something along the lines of ‘only’184,000 small businesses will be affected by his tax increase plans. I doubt that number, but further research beyond my available time or resources can either verify or totally debunk it. To get some idea of the number of small businesses that have registered with the government, go the Central Contractor Registry (CCR) and type in the NAICS code (from the Size Standard Table) and check the block for ‘small business’ on the simple search query page here
Two things to remember are: 1) There are an unknown number of businesses that may choose not to register with CCR, and 2) Businesses may register under an unlimited number of NAICS codes (all the codes for a particular business are listed on their registry page).
If I could change anything about how we run this country, high on my list would be setting both small and large businesses free of government bureaucracy and high taxes. The empirical evidence of economic growth from lowered corporate taxes in Ireland, the Eastern European countries of the former Warsaw Pact, and others, are blatantly obvious. The same people who repeat the tired phrases about “sending jobs overseas” are the same ones who want to tax domestic businesses to a degree that will harm their ability to compete. It’s enough to send me into a fit resembling Tourette’s Syndrome. We use the term ‘heroes’ to describe the military and first responders because of their willingness to face risk. The small businessmen are lower-tier heroes to me. They face risks that I am as yet unwilling to face, and this country is lost without them.
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Excellent first diary keep em coming :-)
JadedByPolitics (Diary) Friday, October 17th at 10:38AM EST (link)nt
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We should send all these links to Obama...
izoneguy (Diary) Friday, October 17th at 10:44AM EST (link).. so he read about what “small business” really is.
Maybe Obama can’t read? I know – Michelle can read these to him as a bedtime story.
The point cannot be made often enough: Modern liberalism, as embodied in the Obama presidency, is the defender of the status quo. And the status quo is a road to economic ruin. Political forces cannot redistribute the wealth that the economic system does not produce.
Well done Top....with you as a 1SG I know are soldiers have good leadership....n/t
Attack Mode (Diary) Friday, October 17th at 10:47AM EST (link)n/t
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conform and celebrate diversity….or else!!!
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“I’ll create 5 million jobs from out of unicorn farts and pixie dust” Justatron paraphrasing Obamessiah…yes I love it that much.
Excellent diary, Top.
Vegas_Rick (Diary) Friday, October 17th at 10:49AM EST (link)Very informative. Obama and the dems have a way of defining things in ways that suit them, but bear very little resemblance to reality. This brings clarity to the subject of small business and taxes.
Thanks.
“God is great, beer is good and people are crazy.”- Billy Currington
“Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan ‘press on’ has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race.” Calvin Coolidge.
Thanks, but I retired too soon
1SGinTN (Diary) Friday, October 17th at 10:56AM EST (link)Whenever somebody calls me a ‘civilian’, I tell them my retired ID card still says “1SG”. I still deploy, but somebody else gets to carry the weapons.
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Tu Ne Cede Malis
-Virgil
My most patriotic act as a small businessman is capital investment...
Steve Maley (Diary) Friday, October 17th at 10:56AM EST (link)…not paying taxes.
Capital investment creates jobs. Taxes feed the monster.
Well done.
The blogger formerly known as ‘Vladimir’.
A-men
Charles Lee (Diary) Friday, October 17th at 11:00AM EST (link)you said it
joe6pack
What really matters here is the low threshold of Obama's
Mike gamecock DeVine (Diary) Saturday, October 18th at 12:14AM EST (link)defintion where taxes and fines for not buying government health care kick in. Am I wrong?
Mike DeVine’s Examiner.com, Charlotte Observer and The Minority Report columns
“One man with courage makes a majority.” – Andrew Jackson
Great first diary
kowalski (Diary) Sunday, October 19th at 10:06AM EST (link)It’s heartening to see a first diarist here on Redstate who actually composes something informative and takes the time to explain what is being discussed.
There is also a distinction between “small business” and “microbusiness” that needs to be explored: I run a microbusiness, a true “Mom and Pop and Son” kind of place.
Even though my mother, father and I are the only three employees, we can’t voluntarily exempt ourselves from Massachusetts’ “must buy” health insurance program, for which we pay $1800 a month in order to comply with the law. That means that the two of us must produce a profit over and above all our costs of almost $22,000 a year simply to pay the health insurance costs, which are * mandatory *.
This has been an extraordinary burden to us getting started during this economic downturn. If my father and I had our way, since we’re both relatively healthy, we would opt to cover just my mother with insurance and save the rest of that money for this year to put into capital investment.
For a microbusiness, $15,000 a year at the beginning makes an enormous difference in your competitiveness. My father and I would be perfectly willing to simply cover my mother and drink Green Tea ourselves for a year, or find an alternate catastrophic coverage plan for him alone, but we don’t have that option.
For anyone who doesn’t think $15,000 is a lot of money to a microbusiness, just as an example it would have purchased * ALL * of the paper and supplies that I have used this year, and funded the maintenance contracts on our two most important pieces of equipment. It would have allowed me to spend a few thousand dollars on advertisements and business promotion also.
We should be at liberty to take that risk as the co-owners of the company: starting a business is a risk. People take risks because they want to reap a reward. We should be allowed to exempt ourselves from the insurance coverage provisions if we so choose, but we cannot do that under the law.
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And for the record
kowalski (Diary) Sunday, October 19th at 10:09AM EST (link)In the past two years, not being covered by health insurance wouldn’t have been a desparate problem for either my father or I: we’re in good health. My father has had 2 checkups which were both squeaky clean, and I had a single visit to a dermatologist. We could have paid for both of those out of pocket for less than $1,500 and put the rest of the money into our business, where it might have done some real good for our future.
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And BTW...
kowalski (Diary) Sunday, October 19th at 10:44AM EST (link)What has happened as a result of the “Coverage for All” mandate in Massachusetts is simply that a lot of small and microbusinesses just break the law and never declare themselves so they can avoid paying into the system. The people who play by the rules pay for their health care.
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622,000 is the number.
NightTwister (Diary) Sunday, October 19th at 10:50AM EST (link)Kat-Mo at Ace wrote about it yesterday. I have the summary and link here.
Also, this is based on the $250K figure. The WSJ editor on the Huckabee show yesterday said the number is actually $200K, which would include many more small businesses.
The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. – Winston Churchill
662,000...
NightTwister (Diary) Sunday, October 19th at 10:53AM EST (link)I transposed a digit there. Sorry to those 40,000 small businesses I left out.
The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. – Winston Churchill
Thanks, Kowalski
1SGinTN (Diary) Sunday, October 19th at 2:39PM EST (link)For the good word. I thank you and the others especially for all the recommends. I’ll try to live up to your praise.
For those so inclined, there are various bells & whistles at the CCR, SBA, and DOL websites for research into the actual size and socio-economic category of the small businesses that will be affected by Obama-nomics. Whether the number of small businesses is 184,000 or 662,000; each has varying numbers of employees that will be in jeopardy. In any case, it is a lot of people. That’s just one reason that I am optimistic. Most of the people realize what is at stake and whose plan is in their best interest. The ones who don’t realize it yet can be reached and won over with the proper approach.
Your point about the health insurance is an eye-opener, and another example of the unintended consequences that bureaucratic meddling cause. Thanks for explaining that.
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Tu Ne Cede Malis
-Virgil
Health insurance in Massachusetts
kowalski (Diary) Sunday, October 19th at 3:15PM EST (link)Is expensive. The state has a lot of people that it wants to insure, and the doctors and health care providers here want to treat them. The cost of care is high and it’s not going down.
But the law has no flexibility, either. It effectively penalizes people who follow the rules and for those who don’t, the State has other programs that are enormously expensive (again, with taxpayer money) to try to enroll them.
The only people who can be really hammered are the companies to accurately declare themselves, and that’s perverse.
This state needs more small and microbusinesses, not less. One look at the Massachusetts state budget and the extraordinary measures being considered to keep it afloat will tell you that.
But people in this State continue to vote the same people into power, time after time after time. Even Romney couldn’t make much of a dent here, and Deval Patrick is just a complete waste of time.
This part of the country is floundering because it has given the State far too much power and budgetary authority with much too little attention paid to nurturing the people who actually create wealth. The rest of the country will go this way under an Obama administration.
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And by the way...
kowalski (Diary) Sunday, October 19th at 3:29PM EST (link)For anyone who is interested in whether or not as a business I “pick and chooose” according to political party, the answer is, and always has been:
Absolutely Not.
Most of the work we’ve done in the past year has been for nonprofit, volunteer and/or philanthropic organizations. I have never prejudged my customers according to their political leanings. I just try to do the best job I can for them, and frankly I think the Northeast needs more for-profit businesses relying on other for-profit businesses, for profit. To fund all those tax increases, natch.
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Obama can read
GregInFla (Diary) Sunday, October 19th at 10:24PM EST (link)He read his first book; not sure if he wrote it, however.
– A true evolutionist would let endangered species die off. Think about it.
– The sign outside the courthouse said no signs allowed. So I took it down.
– Atlas Shrugged is now on the non-fiction aisle at Amazon.
Or they might leave Mass altogether
GregInFla (Diary) Sunday, October 19th at 10:31PM EST (link)Right? Is a neighboring state trying to get you to move there? Can you do your business a few miles away? Because if you look at this in a bigger picture, the higher taxes at the federal level is what makes companies leave the USA.
– A true evolutionist would let endangered species die off. Think about it.
– The sign outside the courthouse said no signs allowed. So I took it down.
– Atlas Shrugged is now on the non-fiction aisle at Amazon.
Helping small businesses is good, but
GregInFla (Diary) Sunday, October 19th at 10:42PM EST (link)But if a government policy affects a larger company, it affects more people. So if the policy makes business here less profitable for even larger companies, those companies can more easily move to a more business-friendly environment. And even more jobs are lost here. For small businesses, yes, these cannot relocate as easily to a friendly place. So we need to help them, but we cannot just lump tons of costs on larger businesses either.
– A true evolutionist would let endangered species die off. Think about it.
– The sign outside the courthouse said no signs allowed. So I took it down.
– Atlas Shrugged is now on the non-fiction aisle at Amazon.